1. Not everyone. I'm quite happy that this decade is over. I don't need Zooropop Part 2

    I admit it was an important time for the sonic development of the band but I don't want to see them go back there. I just wish they had the guts to do another quick one from leftover parts. There should be enough half- finished stuff lying around to complete. But once they start working on something nowadays they immediately start to overdo it to death. The one thing that I dislike right now about U2 is the complete lack of spontaneity and freshness - and these were the virtues of Zooropa IMHO, although I dislike the computerized sound of that album.

    As much as U2 try to convince us about their still burning hunger - I think they lost a lot of it somewhere along the way. They still have the abilities to write, arrange and play awesome songs, but the combination of over- perfectionism and saturation without the actual need to get something released paralyzes them. Instead of going anywhere they move around in circles. If they really want to return to freshness they have to find a different approach to studio work - and they'd better find that quick.

    As much as I like NLOTH (which I really do) - I still believe that it would have proven a wiser choice to finish the Rubin sessions instead. Now their circles have morphed into a downward spiral and It's yet unclear how to escape from it. The increased pressure on the next album to sound truly awesome and unique won't help to regain some spontaneity and freshness.

    If they don't find a less self- numbing approach soon then I'd suggest a five year break. Everything will be better than an album killed slowly and painfully during five years of work and improvement until the last breath of fresh air is forcefully pressed out of it. This would end in death by overproduction - to which they already came dangerously close for a few times. Better break free and get out of the block - or give it a five year break.

    Just my 0.02$, as always. Peace and Love

    Alex
  2. You know, since reading that will.i.am had worked on NLOTH 2 and obviously Crazy Tonight, it got me thinking that it would be really interesting for U2 to work with young producers (maybe even outside their genre like will.i.am or Kanye West) as well as Eno/Lanois so that we get the "signiture" U2 sound combined with new and innovative stuff. That would make for an interesting album I think.
  3. Originally posted by kris_smith87:You know, since reading that will.i.am had worked on NLOTH 2 and obviously Crazy Tonight, it got me thinking that it would be really interesting for U2 to work with young producers (maybe even outside their genre like will.i.am or Kanye West) as well as Eno/Lanois so that we get the "signiture" U2 sound combined with new and innovative stuff. That would make for an interesting album I think.


    they should hire Flood
  4. I want Jay-Z



  5. I heard Lost! with Jay-Z. Keep hip-hop or rap or I don't know what is this crap's name away from their music.
  6. Originally posted by 17s:[..]


    I heard Lost! with Jay-Z. Keep hip-hop or rap or I don't know what is this crap's name away from their music.


    Just kidding.


    Although Sunday Bloody Sunday with him wasn't that bad at all.


  7. I'm not kidding at all. haha


  8. I don't want U2 to do music for the masses, music that everyone would like. Having Jay-Z or Kanye or any other rapper on any track would obviously be a step in that direction. I want them to do something only we, fans, will be able to fully appreciate.
  9. I think bring back Flood and show him the pieces which were made by Rick Rubin and redesign them in Flood's way would be cool. Or release the album twice:
    01 Songs Of Ascent > with Jay-Z, will.i.am, etc
    02 Songs Of Ascent > with Rick Rubin, Flood

    Okay the last two lines were just kidding.
  10. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    I don't want U2 to do music for the masses, music that everyone would like. Having Jay-Z or Kanye or any other rapper on any track would obviously be a step in that direction. I want them to do something only we, fans, will be able to fully appreciate.


    At the same time, they need a commercially successful song for an album to be successful. I don't know about you, but I dig Vertigo and Beautiful Day. Those were the big "rocker" songs on the album that were supposed to get peoples attention, and they were awesome. Now days bands release a hit that does well, then you go and listen to the rest of their album and its totally different, mainly because they know they wouldn't get a hit with their original stuff. U2 tried to release an album with their commercially successful song being Boots, but it was too strange for anyone to like. It wasn't U2 at their finest, it was something strange that the mainstream couldn't comprehend. I still think if they had released NLOTH 2 as the first single the album would've done a lot better.

    Bottom line is, I agree with you, yes, they do need to release albums for their fans, however at the same time they need to release them to the masses. Sure a lot of fans appreciate NLOTH, but look at how U2 reacted. They were disappointed (apparently) about the reaction of it from the masses. In the end, they need a good mix of both.
  11. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    At the same time, they need a commercially successful song for an album to be successful. I don't know about you, but I dig Vertigo and Beautiful Day. Those were the big "rocker" songs on the album that were supposed to get peoples attention, and they were awesome. Now days bands release a hit that does well, then you go and listen to the rest of their album and its totally different, mainly because they know they wouldn't get a hit with their original stuff. U2 tried to release an album with their commercially successful song being Boots, but it was too strange for anyone to like. It wasn't U2 at their finest, it was something strange that the mainstream couldn't comprehend. I still think if they had released NLOTH 2 as the first single the album would've done a lot better.

    Bottom line is, I agree with you, yes, they do need to release albums for their fans, however at the same time they need to release them to the masses. Sure a lot of fans appreciate NLOTH, but look at how U2 reacted. They were disappointed (apparently) about the reaction of it from the masses. In the end, they need a good mix of both.


    Couldn't agree with you more.