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  1. Originally posted by ric:[..]


    i agree SATS does translate very well to acoustic but i guess i just want them to do the song full justice which they never have.

    and as for wake up dead man - you had to be there back in late 96 early 97 at the time when everyone was freaking out thinking the next U2 album would be pure techno pop and disco and then when you bought it and listened to it for the first time it seemed the rumours were true with the first 3 songs but then it just got weirder and more unexpected and finally ended so bleakly with please and wake up dead man! oh how i miss the days when a new U2 album would f*ck with your head that much! thats the reason why i loved U2 so much back then.... sob

    and as for numb being a dark song - i think thats just what this tour needs! a bit of darkness! quite funny how you can say numb is too dark for 360 but dirty day would be great!??! dirty day is possibly the darkest U2 song of ALL time! (which is why i love it - the lyrics are pure poison!) and i loved it on ZOOTV when the show went through different stages of light and dark (dirty day being the darkest point) 360 needs a bit of that in my humble opinion...

    and arms around the world would prob work quite well with the catwalk and bridges



    whats ur interpretation of Dirty day?.... give me anything from ZOO Tv and i wont complain
  2. well the song is about a difficult or maybe non existent relationship between a father and a son but if you take away (or ignore) the "from father to son" line i think it can be interpreted or applied to any other kind of failed relationship...

    thats the basic overall meaning of the song but there's just so many killer one liners in there too (courtesy of bob hewson). thats why it's always been my all time favourite U2 lyrics and one of my favourite songs.

  3. Originally posted by ric:[..]


    i agree SATS does translate very well to acoustic but i guess i just want them to do the song full justice which they never have.

    and as for wake up dead man - you had to be there back in late 96 early 97 at the time when everyone was freaking out thinking the next U2 album would be pure techno pop and disco and then when you bought it and listened to it for the first time it seemed the rumours were true with the first 3 songs but then it just got weirder and more unexpected and finally ended so bleakly with please and wake up dead man! oh how i miss the days when a new U2 album would f*ck with your head that much! thats the reason why i loved U2 so much back then.... sob


    To a very small extent, NLOTH did this too - right after Stand Up, I didn't expect Being Born to be anything like it was. As for Pop, when I first got it I was thinking ''I thought this band did rock and roll, not fucking disco rubbish'' - but I get it now - everything Pop was, wasn't and maybe meant to have been. A lot of people just don't get the record and give up on it.

    I still find it a weird record - and I'll listen to any kind of weird thing. In fact, my favourite new singer is Frank Zappa. Anyone who knows the acts he signed back in the day and the stuff he did would know how weird it all is, but so listenable even 40 years later.

    Yet I long for those days of 20-minute plus songs (with a bit of biting humour) where they sounded like an entire record that stays in your head and with you for god only knows how long, which is a great shame because I don't understand ATYCLB or HTDAAB and why they're so popular. Is it because they're more pop than an album ironically called Pop, or more straight up rock, which the public seems to love songs that run under five minutes or 3:37 for those of you playing at home. U2 don't do cookie-cutter crap, but they sure as hell are getting to the generic stage and it needs to change.

    Glasto can do that - play a few of the weirder songs from the NLOTH sessions, a couple from Pop (even Last Night On Earth, The Playboy Mansion or Miami!), Zooropa and Being Born, plus the standard numbers minus Walk On and it should be a great setlist eye-opener for the next shows and some inspiration ''Oh people liked it, let's go in that direction''. So what if you sell two million records - look at the shows, even though NLOTH wasn't recieved all that well, forget the money, forget it all - you still have the fans even after your 'fuck-ups', so I say go weird in the style of Zappa, early Aerosmith, Yardbirds, The Band, folk, psychedlic rock, Prince...you say you're influenced by so many of those bands and artists, so what would you do if they're your inspiration? You follow.

    A lot of people might think October is utter crap but would you prefer U2 bring out another album full of ballads or some straight-up rock and roll like that record? I know what I'd prefer and it's not the ballads (even though my top 10 of all time contains at least five ballads running to 10+ plus). That's what I'd like U2 to have eventually - a 10-minute rock and roll epic with a story.
  4. seriousley lets give 2001 a rest and bring back 1997. i'm sick and tired of hearing all that you cant leave behind. If they got the balls to play the B Sides that play pop. Seriously if i spent money to hear the same songs again i'm gonna fucking wig!!!!!!!
  5. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    To a very small extent, NLOTH did this too - right after Stand Up, I didn't expect Being Born to be anything like it was. As for Pop, when I first got it I was thinking ''I thought this band did rock and roll, not fucking disco rubbish'' - but I get it now - everything Pop was, wasn't and maybe meant to have been. A lot of people just don't get the record and give up on it.

    I still find it a weird record - and I'll listen to any kind of weird thing. In fact, my favourite new singer is Frank Zappa. Anyone who knows the acts he signed back in the day and the stuff he did would know how weird it all is, but so listenable even 40 years later.

    Yet I long for those days of 20-minute plus songs (with a bit of biting humour) where they sounded like an entire record that stays in your head and with you for god only knows how long, which is a great shame because I don't understand ATYCLB or HTDAAB and why they're so popular. Is it because they're more pop than an album ironically called Pop, or more straight up rock, which the public seems to love songs that run under five minutes or 3:37 for those of you playing at home. U2 don't do cookie-cutter crap, but they sure as hell are getting to the generic stage and it needs to change.

    Glasto can do that - play a few of the weirder songs from the NLOTH sessions, a couple from Pop (even Last Night On Earth, The Playboy Mansion or Miami!), Zooropa and Being Born, plus the standard numbers minus Walk On and it should be a great setlist eye-opener for the next shows and some inspiration ''Oh people liked it, let's go in that direction''. So what if you sell two million records - look at the shows, even though NLOTH wasn't recieved all that well, forget the money, forget it all - you still have the fans even after your 'fuck-ups', so I say go weird in the style of Zappa, early Aerosmith, Yardbirds, The Band, folk, psychedlic rock, Prince...you say you're influenced by so many of those bands and artists, so what would you do if they're your inspiration? You follow.

    A lot of people might think October is utter crap but would you prefer U2 bring out another album full of ballads or some straight-up rock and roll like that record? I know what I'd prefer and it's not the ballads (even though my top 10 of all time contains at least five ballads running to 10+ plus). That's what I'd like U2 to have eventually - a 10-minute rock and roll epic with a story.



    i totally agree with everything you've said except that NLOTH did nothing like that at all for me. actually i admit the VERY first time i heard fez i thought ah this is a tiny hint of the good old days but as soon as being born kicked in i just thought more generic yawn rock...
    i was beyond disappointed when all i'd heard in the lead up to NLOTH was that U2 had gone back to experimentation etc etc.. that album is no more experimental than the last two! - anything vaguely interesting sounding is played by eno! dont get me wrong i did really like the majority of the album (much more than the last two!) but it's all still just too safe sounding.

    and i just DO NOT understand this enormous pre-occupation the band seem to have with needing to be so massive and commercially successful?! they've proved they can be the biggest band in the world - why not go and make some interesting music and push some more boundaries and if it sells great, if not who cares! why spend so ridiculously long trying to perfect every track to death in the studio, taking 5 years to bring out a sub-par album and probably destroying the original essence the songs had when they were first worked on!? and i totally disagree with the much quoted business of pop supposedly not being finished - seems to me if they'd had any longer to work on the songs they would've destroyed them judging by the awful version of discotheque on the best of album and although the re-worked versions of gone and SATS sound a bit fatter and maybe slightly better mixed i dont necessarily think they are any better...

    when ATYCLB came out i thought fair enough, they've made a commercial sounding album, it's got some nice songs and i can live with that, it's a refreshing change etc... and yes it kind of 'saved' them in a commercial sense but i never thought they would stick with that formula for another 10 years! to me that was never what the band was about - in the 90s i saw them as a band that constantly changed their musical style and pushed musical boundaries and that was why i loved them and was a fanatical fan and wouldn't have a bad word said about them and defended them against anyone who slagged them off. but i've lost patience now. they are not the same band i loved back then (specially with bonos constant extra curricular activities overshadowing everything) and these days i'd be more inclined to agree with those people slagging them off! i guess i am just holding out for them to start making scary music again and proving all those people who think they only make one kind of music wrong. i want all the fans who love ATYCLB and HTDAAB and hate pop to get all scared and upset cos "it doesn't sound like U2" i want to buy a new album and hear something like miami or mofo and wonder how this could be the same band that wrote ISHFWILF or AIWIY...


  6. All in all, to me, it comes down to this :

    "We might lose some of the pop fans, but we don't need them."

    U2 should listen to 90's Bono. That guy was smart.


  7. "looking for new ideas new sounds..etc if it keeps us interested it won't be bullshit for you..etc... we're restless folks aren't we the edge"



    err yeah... whatever happened to that philosophy...!?
  8. Originally posted by ric:[..]

    "looking for new ideas new sounds..etc if it keeps us interested it won't be bullshit for you..etc... we're restless folks aren't we the edge"



    err yeah... whatever happened to that philosophy...!?


    i hope someone close to the band see's this topic and tells the boys to mix shit up


  9. haha yeah - the band should employ someone to join up to all the most popular U2 forums and report back with 'the vibes'

    i honestly feel that if the band did read some of the comments on here it might make them at least stop and think for a minute...
  10. Originally posted by ric:[..]

    haha yeah - the band should employ someone to join up to all the most popular U2 forums and report back with 'the vibes'

    i honestly feel that if the band did read some of the comments on here it might make them at least stop and think for a minute...


    just for the hell of it

    1) play more songs from the 90s aswell as SUC and Fez
    2) play new songs this year
    3) release "All my life"
    and most importantly

    4) COME TO AUSTRALIA FFS
  11. Originally posted by Andrew_C:[..]

    just for the hell of it

    1) play more songs from the 90s aswell as SUC and Fez
    2) play new songs this year
    3) release "All my life"
    and most importantly

    4) COME TO AUSTRALIA FFS


    i really hope all your requests come true except for SUC (sorry but i can't listen to that song without cringeing with embarrasment....)
  12. Originally posted by Andrew_C:[..]

    just for the hell of it

    1) play more songs from the 90s aswell as SUC and Fez
    2) play new songs this year
    3) release "All my life"
    and most importantly

    4) COME TO AUSTRALIA FFS


    whats "all my life"?
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