1. Sorry misread the last part of your post If Wilders would say something about the bible nobody wouldve cared about it here.

    Anyway Wilders is obsessed with his fight against the Islam. Shame because his other plans are not that bad.
  2. Originally posted by Andrew_C:sumthing i've always wondered, just wana know other people's opinions.. would a world with no religion be a more peaceful one?


    Excellent question Andrew and, in my humble opinion, I dont think the world would be more peaceful without religion. A few reasons for this:

    * Personally, I dont think religion is the problem - it's ignorance and lack of understanding of other peoples religion that is the problem.

    * Warmongering is not wholly waged on religious ideology. Wars have been fought as much for monetary, geographical and political gain as much as religious gain.

    I think some people (not you!!!) are too quick to blame the ills of the world on religious extremism. I cant see how that can be a balanced argument when many of the people making such claims have no religious beliefs themselves.

    Billions of people around the world take great solace in their faith (myself included) and I cant see how the world would be a better place if these people had no ideals- whatever their religion!



  3. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I've read his post through your quote, and that really made me laugh out loud. Nah, I dont' think he is joking, it's Aaron we're talking about. He's a joke himself.


    What exactly is wrong with him wanting to be dependent just on himself?

    Originally posted by PEDRO67:[..]

    Excellent question Andrew and, in my humble opinion, I dont think the world would be more peaceful without religion. A few reasons for this:

    * Personally, I dont think religion is the problem - it's ignorance and lack of understanding of other peoples religion that is the problem.

    * Warmongering is not wholly waged on religious ideology. Wars have been fought as much for monetary, geographical and political gain as much as religious gain.

    I think some people (not you!!!) are too quick to blame the ills of the world on religious extremism. I cant see how that can be a balanced argument when many of the people making such claims have no religious beliefs themselves.

    Billions of people around the world take great solace in their faith (myself included) and I cant see how the world would be a better place if these people had no ideals- whatever their religion!


    Well said, I thoroughly agree.
  4. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I've read his post through your quote, and that really made me laugh out loud. Nah, I dont' think he is joking, it's Aaron we're talking about. He's a joke himself.


    My prides one of the few things I have that I can call my own. I'm not givving it up to become a slave to the man.

    Shove it.


  5. Left wingers want the gov too supply everything. Self-sufficiency is strange to them.
  6. When the governemnt gives you everything, they can take away everything.


  7. True. Its not my favourite system, but it works. You cant deny that.


  8. Feudalism works too. Just becuase it works, doesen't mean it should be used.
  9. You know what i mean, look at Scandinavia (has been mentioned before). Standard there is relatively high. Of course there are several ways to run a country. And I dont say its the good one, but bit tired of all the bashing here. Lots of countries do it that way and are doing quite well.

  10. Originally posted by Risto:You know what i mean, look at Scandinavia (has been mentioned before). Standard there is relatively high. Of course there are several ways to run a country. And I dont say its the good one, but bit tired of all the bashing here. Lots of countries do it that way and are doing quite well.




    And fortunantly, I dont live in those countrys.

    I know you aint the one who was being a dick about it, but whats wrong with wanting to be a self sufficient individual? If I ever have children, I want to be able to look them in the eye, and say, I never got something I didn't earn.
  11. I agree completely about being independent, but some things you dont have a say in. If you loose your legs it would be fun if your children dont suffer too much by it.