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  1. Originally posted by clover68:it's a very delicate discussing thing
    i'm against any kind of war and civils deaths, and soldier's too. i was against Iraq war, i am against Libia bombing and so on. and i think Bin Laden could be taken without ten years of Afghanistan war.
    has Bin Laden got to be keep alive? go and tell to NY, Washington, London, Madrid .. Marrakesh people.
    you can say the same for the iraqi people and you're right too .. as i said it's very delicate
    i'm against any kind of human being kills .. but there are exceptions that cannot be consider "humans" .. Osama Bin Laden is one them .. like Hitler, Mussolini and some others maybe also one from your ex-country (don't get offended by this, it's definetely not my will; if so sorry)


    Yeah, we had Pavelić, Hitler's son of a bitch financed by Mussolini.

    But let's go back on topic. Here's the thing: I don't believe in Bin Laden. I don't believe that one guy, one guy was smarter than this:



    I think that US just randomly picked one terrorist and said: 'Ok, he's gonna be our ultimate target for the next x number of years. Remember, USA invaded two countries because of that guy.

    In order to invade someone or something, you need to have a symbol, someone very bad so that people will say: 'Ok, let's get that bastard no matter what!'.

    Iraq: 105.000 dead civilians. Because of one man, or because of this:


  2. You really think that if that is true it could be kept secret for ten years


    I think that the USA has gone to far, but I agree with them that the some parts of the Middle-East arent to be trust and if there isnt a diplomatic solution you have to do something to stop them. If you look at Iran, I just dont trust that country and their president Ahmadinejad.

    Ofcourse I hope that we all over the world will live in peace but Im afraid that that never gonna happen.


  3. Of course.





    Of course that you don't trust him because mainstream media told you so!


  4. You are joking now right? At least thats what I hope.
  5. i can be with you for the Iraq matter (and also for the actual Libia matter). your image shows the most relevant reason.
    but i cannot be with you for what it concerns Al Qaida and who was its chief.
    for the fact that you say that US created Iraq and saddam and contribuited in the growing of Al Qaida and Bin laden before 9/11, again i'm with you
  6. Originally posted by vanquish:True, it's more a symbolic thing than anything likely to make a material difference.

    In fact it'll probably just spur on Muslim extremism seeing as the US just made him a martyr

    Indeed, the head of the hydra comparison feels about right. It's amazing how quickly feelings haved turned from 'wow, positivity' to 'hmmm, conspiracy' in the space of 5-6 hours since I crashed out.
  7. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]It's amazing how quickly feelings haved turned from 'wow, positivity' to 'hmmm, conspiracy' in the space of 5-6 hours since I crashed out.


    where have you found this turning?

  8. All across the social networks like Twitter and Facebook - on FB, so many people (this is within my friendship circle, to be fair) are now saying that he's been dead for years etc., that it's all too convenient, doubting the actual state of affairs as it is. On Twitter, let's just say that one of the top trending topics in the UK is #conspiracy. I mean, when it all came 'round, the only people I knew who were awake were Stateside, so there was a lot of understandable rejoicing, but yeah now the Brits are coming 'round, they're completely killing the mood lol.
  9. But dont you think its a bit strange that they dumped the most wanted man over the whole world in the water.


  10. If they'd buried him, he'd have a shrine, wouldn't he?

  11. If that's the case, then certainly - I haven't actually read anything about that yet, only been awake for 20 minutes or so, but if it is the case then as I say, that's pretty questionable.


    Fair point, but then you could also argue that he's going to be seen as a martyr whether his body is reclaimed or not.

    Just seeing Reuters reporting that Hamas have condemned the killing, calling it the assassination of an Arab holy warrior. All I can say is now the vicious circle starts all over again - not that it ever stopped.
  12. Originally posted by thejonner:[..]

    You write stuff like, "so glad that that dirty muzzie is finally dead," and, "i do hate that stinking muslim," and then claim to, 'have nothing against islam and muslim people." Language like that just makes you look like a contradictory, ignorant cunt, you know?


    i don't have anything against them at all, i have lived with muslims and as i said, the ones i personally know are among the nicest people i have met.
    but as i said i have something against that one muslim and that one select group, who kill innocent people cause they think it's their god given right to - and the reason i say that muslim osama is because i can guarantee that if he was not a muslim, he would not have committed the crimes he did. you can say that it wouldn't matter what religion he followed, he still would have been the same, but there is no other religion in the modern world where people can become brainwashed and devoted to doing the atrocities that he did. that would be like saying, if you didn't live where you did and go to school where you did as a child, your life would still be the same. if he was a jew, born into a rich saudi family, he would not have that hatred for the west that he did. islam, in one way or another, did that to him. he would not have been the same without it and the world would be a different place. as i already said, it's only that one muslim and his followers who i (and much of the educated, western world) dislike and see as a bane on our lives
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