Originally posted by pleasegone:Yes, I'm American, and I fully admit our audiences are full of quiet right wing rich republicans who wouldn't get loud if you threw hot water on them.
Despite that, I can't believe so many of you see that as an issue. I don't ever think to myself: "Hey, I want to watch a concert...so I can see how loud the crowd is."
Honestly, I could care less if there was one fan at the show, or 500,000. I could care less how much passion they have. I want the show to be good. U2 won't film several shows and choose the best one. They absolutely have to have BIllions of cameras, and worry about how technically proficient it is. They don't seem to care about anything except for hiring Hack directors like Cornish Hamilton or Freddy Krueger, who cannot keep the camera still.
I just can't believe how many people fall for gimmicks. U2 really believe they made a great concert film.
Then again, I have seen written accounts by people saying that the remix of I'll Go Crazy if I Don't Remix another Song Again Tonight.....is the BEST 360 Tour Song.
Again, I can't believe my eyes on that one. The remix sounds like a weak Pop Outtake. The original is better...kind of like Walk On's less attractive cousin, but still ok.
They get rid of great songs like Breathe, Unforgettable Fire, etc...yet I'll Go Crazy carries on, and they have put it on damb near every single release they can cram it on.
Originally posted by pleasegone:Yes, I'm American, and I fully admit our audiences are full of quiet right wing rich republicans who wouldn't get loud if you threw hot water on them.
Despite that, I can't believe so many of you see that as an issue. I don't ever think to myself: "Hey, I want to watch a concert...so I can see how loud the crowd is."
Honestly, I could care less if there was one fan at the show, or 500,000. I could care less how much passion they have. I want the show to be good. U2 won't film several shows and choose the best one. They absolutely have to have BIllions of cameras, and worry about how technically proficient it is. They don't seem to care about anything except for hiring Hack directors like Cornish Hamilton or Freddy Krueger, who cannot keep the camera still.
I just can't believe how many people fall for gimmicks. U2 really believe they made a great concert film.
Then again, I have seen written accounts by people saying that the remix of I'll Go Crazy if I Don't Remix another Song Again Tonight.....is the BEST 360 Tour Song.
Again, I can't believe my eyes on that one. The remix sounds like a weak Pop Outtake. The original is better...kind of like Walk On's less attractive cousin, but still ok.
They get rid of great songs like Breathe, Unforgettable Fire, etc...yet I'll Go Crazy carries on, and they have put it on damb near every single release they can cram it on.
Originally posted by colbourne25:Personally I think we're more likely to get a live album...
Originally posted by pleasegone:
Great post..I agree with you 100%....I have said countless times,Crazy Tonight Remix is BRUTAL....and the studio version isnt a bad tune.
Also,I have seen the band many,many times here over the years in NYC.I think our crowds are fantastic.Very passionate with tons of energy.I cant understand why they havent filmed a show here or at least release a live cd from NYC.
But then again,U2 refuse to release live cds...period.O well...
Originally posted by pleasegone:Yes, I'm American, and I fully admit our audiences are full of quiet right wing rich republicans who wouldn't get loud if you threw hot water on them.
Despite that, I can't believe so many of you see that as an issue. I don't ever think to myself: "Hey, I want to watch a concert...so I can see how loud the crowd is."
Honestly, I could care less if there was one fan at the show, or 500,000. I could care less how much passion they have. I want the show to be good. U2 won't film several shows and choose the best one. They absolutely have to have BIllions of cameras, and worry about how technically proficient it is. They don't seem to care about anything except for hiring Hack directors like Cornish Hamilton or Freddy Krueger, who cannot keep the camera still.
I just can't believe how many people fall for gimmicks. U2 really believe they made a great concert film.
Then again, I have seen written accounts by people saying that the remix of I'll Go Crazy if I Don't Remix another Song Again Tonight.....is the BEST 360 Tour Song.
Again, I can't believe my eyes on that one. The remix sounds like a weak Pop Outtake. The original is better...kind of like Walk On's less attractive cousin, but still ok.
They get rid of great songs like Breathe, Unforgettable Fire, etc...yet I'll Go Crazy carries on, and they have put it on damb near every single release they can cram it on.
Originally posted by NLOTH_Victor:[..]
I couldn´t disagree more, mate![]()
The crowd makes such a difference in the show experience and how i get engaged to it. There are no words to describe the feeling I had when everyone was jumping together in the Brazilian GA during Out of Control.
The crowd in the Oasis show I went ruined it because they were so disconnected to the show... actually that was Oasis´fault... crappy sound and average performance.
It´s pretty much like a party... If everyone is walking lame, you can still enjoy it, but it won´t be remembered by how amazing and fun it was. But if you go and everyone is having a hell of a time, you´ll tag along!![]()
All in my humble opinion!
Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
I believe he was talking about watching a dvd performance. I agree with him in that I buy a music dvd to watch the band, not the crowd. Sure the crowd can provide ambience and maybe help to produce that feeling of "it's just like being there", but in the end it's about how well the band performs on the recording, not the audience.
To be honest, I don't really care where it's filmed. I'm from Canada and they've never released anything recorded here officially (as far as I know...). Do I feel offended? No. Sure one could argue that Canada is on the North American continent with U.S, so it's not that different. But I could say the same when comparing American/Canadian and European shows. For some reason everything seems to think the audiences there are SOOOO MUCH BETTERRRR. On average I'd say they're about the same. The Slane dvd had the same audience reactions to the music as the Boston dvd did, there was just a higher amount of people there. The only audience that I can really notice a difference in all of the time is the South American audience, and they're just nuts. When I see them in a bootleg dvd, I don't think "wow they're real fans" I think "wow they're having a good time". The point is, as the first guy said, the performance is what matters, not the audience.
Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]
Couldn't have said it better myself, my fellow Canuck. (We don't really call ourselves that do we?)
Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]
I believe he was talking about watching a dvd performance. I agree with him in that I buy a music dvd to watch the band, not the crowd. Sure the crowd can provide ambience and maybe help to produce that feeling of "it's just like being there", but in the end it's about how well the band performs on the recording, not the audience.
To be honest, I don't really care where it's filmed. I'm from Canada and they've never released anything recorded here officially (as far as I know...). Do I feel offended? No. Sure one could argue that Canada is on the North American continent with U.S, so it's not that different. But I could say the same when comparing American/Canadian and European shows. For some reason everything seems to think the audiences there are SOOOO MUCH BETTERRRR. On average I'd say they're about the same. The Slane dvd had the same audience reactions to the music as the Boston dvd did, there was just a higher amount of people there. The only audience that I can really notice a difference in all of the time is the South American audience, and they're just nuts. When I see them in a bootleg dvd, I don't think "wow they're real fans" I think "wow they're having a good time". The point is, as the first guy said, the performance is what matters, not the audience.