1. Originally posted by kris_smith87:[..]


    It totally isn't... because then songs like Vertigo and Crazy Tonight should have made the list! People voted for their favorite songs or the ones THEY wanted on the CD.

    OK, I agree, people voted for the songs they wanted on the CD from the 360 tour, and since the Rose Bowl DVD came out from a show early in the tour, many people voted for songs that were representative of the tour towards the end, say the last 12 months.

    People voted for the songs they liked as they were played on the 360 tour. I would think that very few people were voting for the version of ISHFWILF that was played once that way during the tour. They, the people who voted for ISHFWILF, were voting to have a version that was representative of what was being played on the tour night in and night out. The trumpet version most people didn't hear in the show(s) they might have seen. So, since this was a "fan based" created CD, why would the band put this "one-off" version out there. Give the fans what they voted for AND in the versions that most people would have heard and thought they were voting for
  2. We may have to go rogue and put something together ourselves using U22, an audio rip from the Rosebowl DVD, the Glastonbury performance, and any other undoubtably-five-star recordings of the tour.

    Of course, we wouldn't share it here!
  3. Originally posted by cvstahl:[..]

    OK, I agree, people voted for the songs they wanted on the CD from the 360 tour, and since the Rose Bowl DVD came out from a show early in the tour, many people voted for songs that were representative of the tour towards the end, say the last 12 months.

    People voted for the songs they liked as they were played on the 360 tour. I would think that very few people were voting for the version of ISHFWILF that was played once that way during the tour. They, the people who voted for ISHFWILF, were voting to have a version that was representative of what was being played on the tour night in and night out. The trumpet version most people didn't hear in the show(s) they might have seen. So, since this was a "fan based" created CD, why would the band put this "one-off" version out there. Give the fans what they voted for AND in the versions that most people would have heard and thought they were voting for

    Agreed, although I'm just happy in general with this release but I understand your reasoning. I still think it's a miracle that they are even RELEASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. LOL that shows you how little faith i have in u2.com and u2's output...
  4. Originally posted by Genaro92U2:[..]

    Agreed, although I'm just happy in general with this release but I understand your reasoning. I still think it's a miracle that they are even RELEASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. LOL that shows you how little faith i have in u2.com and u2's output...

    Agreed.

    That's why I thought it was to good to be true. It's as if they just couldn't resist leaving the project alone and letting the fans have exactly what they wanted, sure enough, they found a way to mess it up. It's as if they are thinking or saying, the fans aren't smart enough to know what they want, here let us put this out there, we know you'll want this version because we think it's better than what we usually did for you, but we won't tell you about which version of the song is available to you, we'll simply do it. Granted, it is just one track out of the 23 they're putting out there. I guess we'll see if there's any other surprises that people don't like. It would be nice if just once, if they say they're going to let fans chose what they want, they completely let fans have exactly what they say they want.
  5. I must say how amused i am at the mentality of some U2Fans - never ever satisfied always whining about something not being right a trumpet in a song destroying their experience. i'm happy to have 25 (MLK, Love rescue me, & Unknown Caller to make it up) quality tracks that are not recycled... For gods sake it is what it is so just live with it........ Rant over
  6. Originally posted by hawkmoon_269:I must say how amused i am at the mentality of some U2Fans - never ever satisfied always whining about something not being right a trumpet in a song destroying their experience. i'm happy to have 25 (MLK, Love rescue me, & Unknown Caller to make it up) quality tracks that are not recycled... For gods sake it is what it is so just live with it........ Rant over

    I think you'te missing the point. It's not about whining, it's about doing what you say you're going to do.

    If you say you want to reward the fans for the "great life they've given you" and the fans can chose, keep you're fingers out of it. Remember, no entertainer can be successful financially by ignoring what their fans care about. Sure, they can do what they want to please themselves, but if they want to be financially successful, they need to also see when fans aren't happy and don't pay for the experience they're selling.

    I admit, it is only one track as of now, I guess we'll see if they have any other changes in store with the rest of the tracks we haven't heard. They put out the samples of the 40 songs to chose from, why not let the fans hear in those samples if the track they're choosing is a special version? Also, a good heated debate is good in that, if the band hears about or see's that most fans don' like what they've done, then maybe they'll put out more bonus tracks to appease those fans that are unhappy
  7. fun fact, the U22 trailer for Until the End of the World is incorrect. It's actually from the second night in Mexico notice the climax of the song, Bono says the ,"it's up to you" part and the "Paris, London, " etc. now will it include the Sinatra snippets on U22 from this performance? I hope soo but I doub it

  8. I'm actually not minding the trumpet, it's only in the song for about the last third and it does add something different, kinda like the version from Rattle and Hum (although the choir addition to that version is arguably way better in terms of how it sounds and how it fits).
  9. guys, I think someone here is missing the point...we have war horses on every kind of dvd or cd...who needs another flat ISHFWILF,which is already on the rose bowl dvd?the trumpet is just something different...I think this double cd should not have this or that song just because it's been played at every gig,with the same arrangement,but it should have songs chosen for their high quality performance and/or for a particular element that makes the difference with other performances...In my opinion it would make U22 much more exciting and special as a fanclub release...
  10. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:I'm actually not minding the trumpet, it's only in the song for about the last third and it does add something different, kinda like the version from Rattle and Hum (although the choir addition to that version is arguably way better in terms of how it sounds and how it fits).

    The choir addition makes a lot of since since ISHFWILF is a gospel song. There's probably no addition more fitting than adding a gospel choir to the performance.


    Also, people need to stop complaining about U2 not doing what the fans want. The complaints after Duals was acceptable, but all over one song? Really? I though U2 fans were classier than that.
  11. It has nothing to do with being classy or complaining about one song.

    Having been a parent, the best example is this: You're going to let your child choose something, say, going to any restaurant and picking anything they want to eat. You get to the restaurant and when it comes time to order, at the last minute you see the child is going to order something that you decide, at the last minute, no you don't want them to get that, so here let me show you what you'll really want, I know better because I'm an adult and know what's best for you and what you'll like better than you know yourself. You've now undone the purpose of the event for the child. Sure, they picked the restaurant, but you still changed/intervened when you told them this was their event, completely and totally.

    If this U22 thing was something the band said they would put together and choose tracks and then put out there for the fans, fine then so be it. They told you up front that this would be what they wanted to put out there and wanted the tracks that they thought were best and what they wanted to please themselves and then hopefully would please the fans.

    But in this case, it was offered as, here, you the fans vote on which tracks you want, you have control and decide what should be on the project. If they wanted to say that the version of ISHFWILF is not going to be what was generally performed on the tour and this alternate version is it, this or nothing, than the samples put out to listen to should have let the fans hear that it wasn't the normally performed version.

    Sure, the idea of doing it different was worth trying since it is a warhorse and something new might be nice. But, it seems more than a few say, nice try, but it doesn't work.

    In the end, it is just one song and yes it does seem silly to complain about one song, but at this point, I think other people are saying it's about not letting the fans fully choose when they were lead to believe they would get to have control over this project, especially since the last gift, "Duals" was not well received. Maybe Duals was something they wanted to do for themselves and hoped the fans would like it too, but if not, they did it because that's what they wanted. Fine.......U22 was for the fans to pick

    But to say that we should be grovelling for table scraps and be thankful for anything we get is wrong and has nothing to do with being classy or not
  12. it's ridiculous to carry on like U2 are some malevolent dictators deciding how best to piss their fans off! Maybe U2 thought let's give our fans a unique recording of one of the warhorses, to give it a new lift, maybe they enjoyed playing with a true legend like Hugh Masakela as evidenced by the joy in their faces in the video and wanted to share a special moment for posterity with their fans. In your opinion it doesn't work, in others' opinon it works beautifully. It can hardly be described as table scraps. Or maybe U2 fans simply aren't as elastic as Bono imagines.