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  1. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    The logic is pretty simple: supply and demand. There'd be a lesser amount of tickets, but probably still about the same amount of people wanting to buy them as when they do stadiums. Scalpers would get even worse too.

    True, but it still doesn't warrant an increase in ticket prices. Higher prices doesn't eliminate scalping, there were tons of scalpers at every show I saw on the 360 tour, and in terms of a lesser amount of tickets, there will always be demand for a U2 show. People will always be wanting to see it, and their shows will sell out. It happens.
  2. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    True, but it still doesn't warrant an increase in ticket prices. Higher prices doesn't eliminate scalping, there were tons of scalpers at every show I saw on the 360 tour, and in terms of a lesser amount of tickets, there will always be demand for a U2 show. People will always be wanting to see it, and their shows will sell out. It happens.

    If they really wanted to give back to the die hard fans, the arena shows could be done with a nice profit by making 10% of the best seats really expensive with 20% of the take going to charity, and the other 90% of the seats could be priced cheap. Having the stadium show already take place would give them the huge revenue, and those shows would be billed as "U2 plays their biggest hits," and the arena shows could be billed as "U2 plays their other songs." lol.

    This would never happen, but it easily could be done. It could be a big win-win for the General fans, the Die Hards, and for U2. Even Ca$h McCa$hu$ would make his usual cut.

    In my example, they play 12 shows in 38 days in 4 cities. The Biggest Win Win for U2, is the severe cutback in travel. They actually can enjoy themselves by having more time in a city to catch up on sleep, and not bore themselves by playing 3 different shows. The whole tour could be done in 380 days, covering 120 shows in only 40 cities.

    Of course, the U2 fans would have to travel to the nearest big city, but as poor as I am, I would love to go see one of the arena shows and get to hear songs like:

    Spanish Eyes, Wire, Drowning Man, The Ground Beneath Her Feat, Mofo, So Cruel, Acrobat, Heartland, etc...


  3. like i said your idea is very charming indeed and i would love arena shows also because it's about 20 years and half they don't in Italy .. remember those 2 "little" concerts of the ZooTV?! .. i would surely travel as i did during Elevation to get into a U2 arena ...
    .. still arenas are not necessary to give back to the die hards ... mainly it's something .. take a large bunch of songs .. a hundred? not asking a number like close to 200 like some old man still can ..
    rotate them .. insert at least a new entry to make a show "particular"
    stop play a song for many consecutive concerts and then forget it .. stop play Vertigo, Elevation, Boots, and kind of, each and every night
    stop cutting parts of the songs
    stop shitty crazy remix and relatives .. stop doing think to please but please for what you like to do
    eat the stage
    and i, i guess a longtime die hard fan, am very fine both i'm in an arena and i'm in a stadium .. and i believe some others too
  4. Originally posted by clover68:[..]


    like i said your idea is very charming indeed and i would love arena shows also because it's about 20 years and half they don't in Italy .. remember those 2 "little" concerts of the ZooTV?! .. i would surely travel as i did during Elevation to get into a U2 arena ...
    .. still arenas are not necessary to give back to the die hards ... mainly it's something .. take a large bunch of songs .. a hundred? not asking a number like close to 200 like some old man still can ..
    rotate them .. insert at least a new entry to make a show "particular"
    stop play a song for many consecutive concerts and then forget it .. stop play Vertigo, Elevation, Boots, and kind of, each and every night
    stop cutting parts of the songs
    stop shitty crazy remix and relatives .. stop doing think to please but please for what you like to do
    eat the stage
    and i, i guess a longtime die hard fan, am very fine both i'm in an arena and i'm in a stadium .. and i believe some others too

    It will be very difficult to make all fans happy ....
    I like Vertigo and Boots but no Elevation ....

    I think all die hard fans are tired with some songs .
    Like they did during the 360 tour with Ultraviolet and Hold me thrill me kiss me kill me , I think they can play one night Pride or I still havent found and change the next date . The same with One and With or without you-

    I will follow / Out of control
    Sunday bloody sunday / New year s day
  5. Originally posted by patou2:
    It will be very difficult to make all fans happy ....
    I like Vertigo and Boots but no Elevation ....

    I think all die hard fans are tired with some songs .
    Like they did during the 360 tour with Ultraviolet and Hold me thrill me kiss me kill me , I think they can play one night Pride or I still havent found and change the next date . The same with One and With or without you-

    I will follow / Out of control
    Sunday bloody sunday / New year s day


    not that hard Pato .. rotation (and more songs in that) is the key .. anything is possible if you want it bad enough
  6. I have only been able to see them twice so I am not really tired of hearing anything really. Obviously there are songs I want to hear more than others but I would just be happy to see them play again.
  7. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    True, but it still doesn't warrant an increase in ticket prices. Higher prices doesn't eliminate scalping, there were tons of scalpers at every show I saw on the 360 tour, and in terms of a lesser amount of tickets, there will always be demand for a U2 show. People will always be wanting to see it, and their shows will sell out. It happens.

    This is exactly what warrants an increase in ticket prices. With 360, they had the ability to increase the capacity of those stadiums because all the sound equipment is essentially floating in the sky. No other stadium tour has been able to truly maximize the space given like 360 has. Because they had the capacity to sell more tickets, they could introduce lower price brackets while still bringing in profits. Higher prices (or rather less tickets) encourages scalping and feeds the secondary market for tickets. Lower prices with more available tickets essentially kills that market because a scalper would essentially have to buy ALL the tickets for the secondary market to thrive, which isn't really practical.


    But long story short, if U2 had decided to tour in arenas, they already know that it means tickets prices will increase. A lot.


    And regarding the show format, I don't think we should be too worried about their setlist variety. They'll mix things up to keep things fresh. Probably not every night, but possibly every leg. If you look at a 360 show, the band always says how choreographed it is. But looking at it with respect to the entire tour, you'd see that they actually mixed things up quite a bit. While everyone was tripping over themselves with Unforgettable Fire and Ultraviolet, they probably would have never guessed that they would be tripping over themselves when Zooropa, The Fly, and HMTMKMKM became setlist staples.
  8. I still really don't understand how that works lol. The lower the costs of a show, the less they money they need to make to break even and get profit. As I said, nothing will stop scalpers. Everyone seems to think that the way they did it on 360 helped that cause, but as I said I still saw tons whenever I went to a show.

    Obviously U2 needs to make a profit, and needs to try and fight scalpers, but I still think that a much smaller extravaganza should mean smaller ticket prices. What ever happened to the U2 that only made a profit thanks to T-Shirt sales on the Zoo tour? They spent their own money putting on the show and barely made a profit ticket-wise because they wanted to enable all of their fans to be able to afford tickets.

    Someone remind me how much profit U2 made on the last tour again? Christ.
  9. Simple supply and demand. I paid £30 for several of my 360 tickets. I'd be surprised if the cheapest arena tickets were any less than double that. Less tickets equals higher prices. An indoor show is cheaper to run but they are playing to less people meaning they need to charge them more to make their £$€
  10. True,but the problem with stadiums is this,if you have a bad seat (aka nosebleeds),you are detached from the gig.I wont go at this point ,if I have an upper tier seat in a stadium.

    But a bad ticket in an arena,say in MSG,you can still feel like you are a part of the show.IMO,there really is no bad seat in MSG.

    Stadium shows,for me at least,are more of an event.U2 didnt seem to mind playing 7 shows in the fall of 2005 at MSG.I dont think its really all about the $$,its about the time.1 show at the New Medowlands Stadium can hold 80,000 fans.They would have to play 4 nights at MSG to equal that.The price of the ticket is similar,and fans like me, will attend more than 1 night at MSG.

    I think most fans, of any band,would rather see a show in a smaller setting.
  11. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    True, but it still doesn't warrant an increase in ticket prices. Higher prices doesn't eliminate scalping, there were tons of scalpers at every show I saw on the 360 tour, and in terms of a lesser amount of tickets, there will always be demand for a U2 show. People will always be wanting to see it, and their shows will sell out. It happens.

    I'm nit saying higher prices will eliminate scalping, I'm saying the scalpers would probably get worse in smaller venues because I think they'd get their hands on a larger percentage of the seats.
  12. Originally posted by EDDMB:True,but the problem with stadiums is this,if you have a bad seat (aka nosebleeds),you are detached from the gig.I wont go at this point ,if I have an upper tier seat in a stadium.

    But a bad ticket in an arena,say in MSG,you can still feel like you are a part of the show.IMO,there really is no bad seat in MSG.

    Stadium shows,for me at least,are more of an event.U2 didnt seem to mind playing 7 shows in the fall of 2005 at MSG.I dont think its really all about the $$,its about the time.1 show at the New Medowlands Stadium can hold 80,000 fans.They would have to play 4 nights at MSG to equal that.The price of the ticket is similar,and fans like me, will attend more than 1 night at MSG.

    I think most fans, of any band,would rather see a show in a smaller setting.

    U2 were meant to be playing stadiums in fall 2005. 7 nights at MSG sounds like compensation for not doing 2 nights at Meadowlands. U2 in New York for an entire week sounds more like an event to me than one or two nights at a stadium.

    We can only wait and see how it plays out.
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