1. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    In Sweden a normal movie is more expensive than that. It's more around those 12 euros. And even more if it's in 3D.

    Compare your salary to ours.
  2. Originally posted by dylbagz:I thought Europe was in reasonably a bad way with it's economy still..? Not sure how they can charge those prices over there, it's only about that over here with a reasonably OK economy. Do people still go to the cinemas?

    Cinemas are being shut down due to super poor performances since some years ago. The reason? An unavoidable decline in attendees due to an avoidable increase of the prices. Last year (2012) witnessed the worst gross for the cinema industry (only cinemas, not counting physical sells) ever in Spain, and this year is going to be similar or worse.

    Many Muse fans rushed to buy their tickets for the screening of the Rome movie, fearing it would sell out super quick... But almost one week later, less than half of the tickets have been sold. And that is counting with a strong fan base like Muse's - I can't imagine how badly would U2 do nowadays (U2 3D came out just before cinemas started their heavy decline and still had problems to sell out at any of the cinemas it was shown at).
  3. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    Cinemas are being shut down due to super poor performances since some years ago. The reason? An unavoidable decline in attendees due to an avoidable increase of the prices. Last year (2012) witnessed the worst gross for the cinema industry (only cinemas, not counting physical sells) ever in Spain, and this year is going to be similar or worse.

    Many Muse fans rushed to buy their tickets for the screening of the Rome movie, fearing it would sell out super quick... But almost one week later, less than half of the tickets have been sold. And that is counting with a strong fan base like Muse's - I can't imagine how badly would U2 do nowadays (U2 3D came out just before cinemas started their heavy decline and still had problems to sell out at any of the cinemas it was shown at).

    Understood. But perhaps the price rises are in relation to the increasing trend of piracy which then causes the cinema attendance to decrease and thus the circle begins with price rises to account for lower numbers etc..?
  4. Of course it has to do with it. Spain is, shamefully, one of the countries with the biggest ratio of piracy of the whole world.
  5. Creative industries will never be the same again which is a shame
  6. Can you then explain why album sales are down then, if you wanna be cheeky?

  7. In very certain groups of people and with very certain bands, piracy MIGHT be a compliment; aka, that kind of people that listen to a leaked album and buy it afterwards.

    Nevertheless, it is more than obvious that the general audience doesn't do that. Anymore.
  8. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    Cinemas are being shut down due to super poor performances since some years ago. The reason? An unavoidable decline in attendees due to an avoidable increase of the prices. Last year (2012) witnessed the worst gross for the cinema industry (only cinemas, not counting physical sells) ever in Spain, and this year is going to be similar or worse.

    Many Muse fans rushed to buy their tickets for the screening of the Rome movie, fearing it would sell out super quick... But almost one week later, less than half of the tickets have been sold. And that is counting with a strong fan base like Muse's - I can't imagine how badly would U2 do nowadays (U2 3D came out just before cinemas started their heavy decline and still had problems to sell out at any of the cinemas it was shown at).

    Believe it or not, Muse's fan base can't be compared to the fan base of U2. And here I'm not talking about hardcore fan base, you know, people like us, but people that don't listen to them everyday but know their music.

    You know, if you're 20-something, your parents maybe grew up with U2. You can't say the same for Muse. And that is important. More than 90% people at any concert are not HARDCORE fans, but just people that like the band.

    U2 were playing in Zagreb because stadium in Vienna was already taken. After first concert sold out in few hours, they announced the second one. They filled Maksimir stadium with 66.000 people on both nights.

    After them, there was Madonna concert announced. Response was so poor that the concert was canceled. Hey, Madonna! Bon Jovi had concert in half-empty stadium in front of 20.000 people. Few months ago Robbie Williams filled it with 30.000 people.

    U2 is still an institution that can be compared only to The Rolling Stones. After they're gone, it will be impossible to compare U2 to anyone, on such scales. And after U2 is gone, I don't see anyone filling their spot.

    Not because that's impossible, but because I don't see anyone wanting to do it hard enough.
  9. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    In very certain groups of people and with very certain bands, piracy MIGHT be a compliment; aka, that kind of people that listen to a leaked album and buy it afterwards.

    Nevertheless, it is more than obvious that the general audience doesn't do that. Anymore.

    But profit from albums are nothing compared to selling tickets for concerts. Anyone that wants to make a living out of music needs to go on tour. You can buy 10 U2's albums with money that will get you one ticket for their show.
  10. So...... what?
  11. I don't know if I am adding to the conversation here or taking it in a completely, unconnected direction but really liking a band doesn't necessarily mean attending shows - it really could be about listening to albums over and over and over and over again.

    For whatever reason, I have only recently (and just somewhat) started attending more concerts - and therefore showing my support for particular musicians in this way. That said, I have always considered myself to be a massive U2 fan. Was kidding myself????