1. Originally posted by KaiserJose:The bipartisan politics is becoming far too polarised. Whether you agree with what he's done, the changes Obama's brought in his 8 years as PoTUS are about to be undone by Trump. Equally, whenever the next Democrat is elected, they'll likely reverse the measures he takes whilst in office. This swinging of policies every few years is not to the US's benefit.

    Someone here complained that the election was damaged by having other candidates who took voters away from Hillary, but this surely demonstrates the problems with a two party system. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein should have been afforded more air time.
    Someone here complained that the election was damaged by having other candidates who took voters away from Hillary

    That was a nice way of putting what was said...
  2. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — From New York to Illinois to California, in red states as well as blue, protesters decrying Donald Trump's election spent another night overtaking highways, smashing store windows, igniting fires and in at least one city, facing pepper spray and rubber projectiles from police trying to clear the streets.
    But I guess protests would have been there either way...
  3. Protests are fine. When they turn to riots they become counteractive to the cause and only hurt the communities around them. Who do they point the finger at for that?

    Besides, all those white-bred, entitled little snot noses parents are paying a lot of money for their educations. They should be in class learning about how the superdelegate system and the electoral college work...


  4. You may say so. I'm just really happy I was born in a country where, despite we also have problems, people are free to choose if they want to go through with their pregnancy or not. Same goes for euthanasia.

    But like I said, you don't have to agree with it. I just find it to be a certain right people have, probably because I'm used to it, wasn't brought up with the word of god etc. For some Americans it's totally normal to have a gun, that's something I don't understand but I don't judge it (beside some of the rules surrounding it).
  5. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]


    You may say so. I'm just really happy I was born in a country where, despite we also have problems, people are free to choose if they want to go through with their pregnancy or not. Same goes for euthanasia.

    But like I said, you don't have to agree with it. I just find it to be a certain right people have, probably because I'm used to it, wasn't brought up with the word of god etc. For some Americans it's totally normal to have a gun, that's something I don't understand but I don't judge it (beside some of the rules surrounding it).
    I don't want to get back into this debate again but I'd like to ask you why you don't value the child (or I'm guessing you'd say fetus ) enough to make abortion illegal. Genuine question not having a go or anything just curious. I just can't understand why anyone would chose to have an abortion other than for selfish reasons (except for the extreme cases such as rape or health risks which are clearly more difficult).
  6. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I don't want to get back into this debate again but I'd like to ask you why you don't value the child (or I'm guessing you'd say fetus ) enough to make abortion illegal. Genuine question not having a go or anything just curious. I just can't understand why anyone would chose to have an abortion other than for selfish reasons (except for the extreme cases such as rape or health risks which are clearly more difficult).
    I can't see myself ever wanting an abortion, but I like that there is a choice (for example with a huge health risk). And it's not like someone just has an abortion for fun, it's always a hard choice to make.

    And It's not like I don't value a child, that sounds like I go around punching kids in the face Sometimes it's better not to let a child be born, for itself, just for itself. Not because the child is bad, but mainly because it will only be hurt by the people around him or her.

    I understand some of you might see it as an inhumane thing to do, but I think abortion and euthanasia are actually in some cases the most humane thing to do. If done in the right way ofcourse.

    I hope you can at least see where I get my idea from, I can understand the way you look at it, but I see it differently.
  7. Originally posted by bartajax:[..]
    I can't see myself ever wanting an abortion, but I like that there is a choice (for example with a huge health risk). And it's not like someone just has an abortion for fun, it's always a hard choice to make.

    And It's not like I don't value a child, that sounds like I go around punching kids in the face Sometimes it's better not to let a child be born, for itself, just for itself. Not because the child is bad, but mainly because it will only be hurt by the people around him or her.

    I understand some of you might see it as an inhumane thing to do, but I think abortion and euthanasia are actually in some cases the most humane thing to do. If done in the right way ofcourse.

    I hope you can at least see where I get my idea from, I can understand the way you look at it, but I see it differently.
    I appreciate you giving me an answer, and although we have already agreed to disagree I respect the fact you have acknowledged where I'm coming from and I also respect your right to an opinion.
  8. People who disliked both candidates, but somehow came to the conclusion that Trump was the better of the two, are fucking idiots.
  9. Also, the Bernie or Bust people are idiots.
  10. Also, the 45% of the population who didn't vote are idiots.
  11. America is full of idiots. Fuck democracy, America doesn't deserve that system of government.
  12. Originally posted by ahn1991:People who disliked both candidates, but somehow came to the conclusion that Trump was the better of the two, are fucking idiots.
    Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel