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  1. Originally posted by Release3:No. I'm just saying it's silly to discriminate an entire religion when in reality that particular religion isn't killing Americans domestically. People can do things in the name of Islam, but doesn't mean all of Islam stands for that. Just like how I'm a Christian, but don't share the views of white supremisists who kill in the name of Christianity. Hitler was a very "religious" man but I wouldn't consider him Christian
    Yeah I dont know any Christian Extremist Groups. Hitler being a religous man is pretty far reach. He wasnt attending service every week or some kind of an altar boy. But when the muslim holy book says to kill infidels and the new testament says to love them there is a difference. Also if this was a muslim ban there would be another 10 countries on there.
  2. That kind of brings me to a point I was going to make that the FBI and whatever other intelligence personnel or organisations out there are the answer to the terrorist problem, obviously not dealing with it the way you've pointed out above but i can't help but feel terrorists are being spotted and monitored all the time without anything actually being done.
  3. Originally posted by Release3:[..]
    Does an administration choose and directly work with the FBI and make calls, or does the FBI work alone? I'm genuinely curious, I'm not sure.
    They have a huge influence on the way they work. This past administrarion was an example.
  4. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    Yeah I dont know any Christian Extremist Groups. Hitler being a religous man is pretty far reach. He wasnt attending service every week or some kind of an altar boy. But when the muslim holy book says to kill infidels and the new testament says to love them there is a difference. Also if this was a muslim ban there would be another 10 countries on there.
    KKK and white supremesist groups including Nazis, alt-right, etc are mainly Christian based. And Hitler was known to be a religious man. Idk if he openly practiced going to church and stuff, but we can't say for sure whether or not these radicals do either. I'm not too familiar with the Quran so I can't really comment about the "kill infidel" argument.
  5. It's ridiculous. "Oh? A potential terrorist who went to an ISIS training camp? Meh, I'm sure it'll work out fine." Makes no sense
  6. Everyone! Everyone. Let's take a moment of silence to remember those killed by Islamic Extremists at the Massacre of Bowling Green. You might not remember this disaster because the Liberal media under Islamist sympathizer Obama chose not to cover it. It's events like this that require a Muslim ban. And events like the Quebec mosque shooting done by an Alt-Right Trump supporter? Obviously fabricated by the Liberal media.
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    People here talk about opinions and respect, but when you have this sort of opinion I'm not obligated to show you any respect.
  7. Still, I'm surprised Trump had to fabricate a terrorist attack to support his silly ban and perhaps even more surprised that Trump's supporters still back him for doing so.

    Americans should be really embarrassed right now. This is even worse than China using scenes from Top Gun to show off their military success.
  8. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    That is about every person having human rights not being able to travel wherever they choose, ILLEGALLY or LEGALLY. What would be the point of having countries if everyone could go wherever they choose, anytime they choose. Some of these immigrants want to do us harm and we have a RIGHT to protect ourselves. Not wait for one of them to kill us and then make a decision. We are trying ro be proactive not reactive.


    Yeah, you just hit the nail on the head without wanting to. Having countries has no point whatsoever (I know I'll be mostly alone on this but who cares).
  9. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]


    Yeah, you just hit the nail on the head without wanting to. Having countries has no point whatsoever (I know I'll be mostly alone on this but who cares).
    You'd be alone plus one in that regard. Our society is well on the road to globalization and it's futile, even childish, to resist.

    When other countries get up to speed that our new administration is an utter joke, they'll start imposing restrictions on us and we'll get the isolationist nation the minority of this country so desires.

    Spoiler alert: it'll suck a lot.
  10. Originally posted by amansman:[..]
    Yeah I dont know any Christian Extremist Groups. Hitler being a religous man is pretty far reach. He wasnt attending service every week or some kind of an altar boy. But when the muslim holy book says to kill infidels and the new testament says to love them there is a difference. Also if this was a muslim ban there would be another 10 countries on there.
    With respect, are you a Muslim? Do you have the right to judge how the majority of the world's over 1 billion Muslims should read the Quran? Or do you just read words like "kill infidels" in there and assume that all Muslims do/should read those words literally as applying to all non-Muslims at all times?

    Yes, there is a big difference between some of the violent actions that Muhammad carried out in Mecca and the "love your enemies" and peaceful example that Jesus left in the New Testament. But what about the Old Testament? The Old Testament is arguably more violent than the Quran in describing how God orders the Israelites to slaughter entire tribes of people in Canaan. I as a Christian (and maybe you as well) would point out that the New Testament revelation of Jesus provides a new lens through which to interpret the carnage of the Old Testament = this is NOT what God is really like, Jesus is!

    But if you make that legitimate interpretive move, then you also have to provide the same opportunity for Muslims to read their holy book in such a way, even if people might disagree over how convincing that is. But just because you might not see that as legitimate doesn't mean you can judge an entire religion and ban people from Muslim countries out of fear.

    Sorry, as a Bible teacher I enjoy these kinds of discussions but can sometimes go on too long! Open to more, if you wish.
  11. Great nod to mr Trump from Sweden



  12. If this were the 12th Century we'd be worried about Christians killing us on their crusades.

    Not all Christians "love thy neighbor".

    I find most religious people to be closed minded and full of prejudice.

    Personally I think ALL religions are fucked and they shouldn't exist. We'd be a hell of a lot happier.
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