Experience and Innocence tour
Legs (3): Promo tour, Leg 1: North America, Leg 2: Europe
Shows: 75
  1. Im actually quite happy with
    “Iris”
    “Cedarwood Road”
    “Song for Someone”
    “Sunday Bloody Sunday”
    “Raised by Wolves”

    Thats the Innocence part sorted. Plus the experience part and a few more tunes and should be a good setlist. What Im not happy with is Desire and the showman.
  2. The "Innocence part was sorted" with the I+E tour LOL, where those five songs were played every night
  3. You know, on some aspects I'm torn about this next tour.
    For the people that say that they are rehashing complete parts of a previous tour, if you think about it, there was another tour where they recycled more than 50% of a previous tour. Songs, segues, setlist order, almost everything. Still, that tour turned out to be for me the peak of U2 that they will never top, not even with their ZooTV paraphernalia. I'm talking of course about Lovetown. Almost everything from the JT tour was recycled: Shows still started with Streets - IWF - ISHWILF - MLK - TUF, etc. but they added new songs, took away the horrible covers and toured with a living legend like BB King. R&H was the natural step forward after JT, so it made sense to still tour with those songs.
    SOE is also a continuation of SOI, so it also makes sense to take those songs with you on the next tour. We can see both sides of the narrative. That part makes sense.
    The reason I said I'm torn about this is that the similarities with Lovetown stop there. They were in their 28, 29's during Lovetown, at the top of their musical and creative abilities. I already accepted the fact that the band is not getting any younger and the performances are only going to get worse. That should be reason enough to compensate this with other factors like setlist surprises, removing what obviously didn't work in the last tour (I'm looking at you, SBS acoustic). From rehearsals, it looks like U2 is doing one step forward but two steps backwards after that. I'm optimistic, but I'm also concerned that these things that they are trying right now will soon be abandoned to return to even safer grounds.
    Sorry for the long post.
  4. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:You know, on some aspects I'm torn about this next tour.
    For the people that say that they are rehashing complete parts of a previous tour, if you think about it, there was another tour where they recycled more than 50% of a previous tour. Songs, segues, setlist order, almost everything. Still, that tour turned out to be for me the peak of U2 that they will never top, not even with their ZooTV paraphernalia. I'm talking of course about Lovetown. Almost everything from the JT tour was recycled: Shows still started with Streets - IWF - ISHWILF - MLK - TUF, etc. but they added new songs, took away the horrible covers and toured with a living legend like BB King. R&H was the natural step forward after JT, so it made sense to still tour with those songs.
    SOE is also a continuation of SOI, so it also makes sense to take those songs with you on the next tour. We can see both sides of the narrative. That part makes sense.
    The reason I said I'm torn about this is that the similarities with Lovetown stop there. They were in their 28, 29's during Lovetown, at the top of their musical and creative abilities. I already accepted the fact that the band is not getting any younger and the performances are only going to get worse. That should be reason enough to compensate this with other factors like setlist surprises, removing what obviously didn't work in the last tour (I'm looking at you, SBS acoustic). From rehearsals, it looks like U2 is doing one step forward but two steps backwards after that. I'm optimistic, but I'm also concerned that these things that they are trying right now will soon be abandoned to return to even safer grounds.
    Sorry for the long post.
    I completely disagree with you On Sunday Bloody Sunday. The slowed down version worked really well followed by the SOI songs as I felt it was an attack on innocence. “I can’t believe the news today” and then an actual newscast and the bomb that ripped into Raised By Wolves. The slow Sunday made Wolves more frantic and packed more of a punch. I think it worked great.
  5. Originally posted by kris_smith87:[..]
    I completely disagree with you On Sunday Bloody Sunday. The slowed down version worked really well followed by the SOI songs as I felt it was an attack on innocence. “I can’t believe the news today” and then an actual newscast and the bomb that ripped into Raised By Wolves. The slow Sunday made Wolves more frantic and packed more of a punch. I think it worked great.
    The highlights you mention about that version are only the production and visuals when the song was ending and the anticipation for RBW.
  6. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:You know, on some aspects I'm torn about this next tour.
    For the people that say that they are rehashing complete parts of a previous tour, if you think about it, there was another tour where they recycled more than 50% of a previous tour. Songs, segues, setlist order, almost everything. Still, that tour turned out to be for me the peak of U2 that they will never top, not even with their ZooTV paraphernalia. I'm talking of course about Lovetown. Almost everything from the JT tour was recycled: Shows still started with Streets - IWF - ISHWILF - MLK - TUF, etc. but they added new songs, took away the horrible covers and toured with a living legend like BB King. R&H was the natural step forward after JT, so it made sense to still tour with those songs.
    SOE is also a continuation of SOI, so it also makes sense to take those songs with you on the next tour. We can see both sides of the narrative. That part makes sense.
    The reason I said I'm torn about this is that the similarities with Lovetown stop there. They were in their 28, 29's during Lovetown, at the top of their musical and creative abilities. I already accepted the fact that the band is not getting any younger and the performances are only going to get worse. That should be reason enough to compensate this with other factors like setlist surprises, removing what obviously didn't work in the last tour (I'm looking at you, SBS acoustic). From rehearsals, it looks like U2 is doing one step forward but two steps backwards after that. I'm optimistic, but I'm also concerned that these things that they are trying right now will soon be abandoned to return to even safer grounds.
    Sorry for the long post.
    That’s a good point about Lovetown, I had been thinking something similar as well. I’ll admit I’m not overjoyed by the return of the slower SBS - it and Elevation are the only songs in the run throughs I’m kind of asking ‘why?’ about. The rest have me pretty excited.
  7. Originally posted by SJKamal:Im actually quite happy with
    “Iris”
    “Cedarwood Road”
    “Song for Someone”
    “Sunday Bloody Sunday”
    “Raised by Wolves”

    Thats the Innocence part sorted. Plus the experience part and a few more tunes and should be a good setlist. What Im not happy with is Desire and the showman.
    If it's the 2017 / Zoo TV / Lovetown full band, full on version of Desire I'll take it but no more acoustic half arsed acoustic versions please
  8. Originally posted by treasure:[..]
    If it's the 2017 / Zoo TV / Lovetown full band, full on version of Desire I'll take it but no more acoustic half arsed acoustic versions please
    Wasn't there a report about some siren sounding at the start of Desire?
    And Bono apparently also is shouting something at the start.

    If it's anything like the Vegas 2016 version, count me in.
  9. The Iris, Cedarwood Rd, Song For Someone, SBS, Raised by Wolves section disappoints me.
    In some small way I'm actually hoping that U2 are playing pre-recorded versions of these over the PA to disguise what they are actually playing and hearing through their IEM's, to try and save some mystery for the opening night.
    The Innocence leg is over and I'd personally like to hear some newer tracks or older tracks which haven't been played in a while.
    Having said that Cedarwood Road and Song for Somene were great on the Innocence leg.
  10. Originally posted by Remy:[..]
    Wasn't there a report about some siren sounding at the start of Desire?
    And Bono apparently also is shouting something at the start.

    If it's anything like the Vegas 2016 version, count me in.
    Yes I guess I meant 2016 when I said 2017 !! Bring it on !!