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Experience and Innocence tour
 Legs (3): Promo tour, Leg 1: North America, Leg 2: Europe
Shows: 75

  1. Made me expel air fast through my nose, and tight my lips to avoid laughing outloud.

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    I think the new MacPhisto works for what is meant to be.
    This is not the ironic sarcastic clown we saw back in 1993. This bastard is beyond that, this guy is really rotting in hell.
    93 MacPhisto was funny and you could actually feel a bit of sympathy for him, not for this one, this one is hideous and grotesque.

    Is like when you face a villain in a videogame, is evil but a bit normal. But once you "defeat" him, it comes back in a monstrous way, (i.e. Ganondorf - Ganon).
    I like this MacPhisto.
  2. Originally posted by DutchU2Fan:[..]
    Yeah either do the horns and lipstick with makeup or not, the AR thing looks weird and doesn't work the whole time, a bit cringe.


    I wonder is that the point though?

    Also totally off topic but nothing makes me cringe more than people saying "a bit cringe" and "cringeworthy" haha
  4. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]

    Made me expel air fast through my nose, and tight my lips to avoid laughing outloud.

    ---

    I think the new MacPhisto works for what is meant to be.
    This is not the ironic sarcastic clown we saw back in 1993. This bastard is beyond that, this guy is really rotting in hell.
    93 MacPhisto was funny and you could actually feel a bit of sympathy for him, not for this one, this one is hideous and grotesque.

    Is like when you face a villain in a videogame, is evil but a bit normal. But once you "defeat" him, it comes back in a monstrous way, (i.e. Ganondorf - Ganon).
    I like this MacPhisto.
    Wow, you connected Zelda and U2 in the same post!
    The idea of an aged, washed up MacPhisto sounds great on paper, but the execution still looks lame. Maybe they can put a fully animated segment in the screens after Desire with a good CGI MacPhisto and then the real Bono starts singing Acrobat.
  5. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]

    Made me expel air fast through my nose, and tight my lips to avoid laughing outloud.

    ---

    I think the new MacPhisto works for what is meant to be.
    This is not the ironic sarcastic clown we saw back in 1993. This bastard is beyond that, this guy is really rotting in hell.
    93 MacPhisto was funny and you could actually feel a bit of sympathy for him, not for this one, this one is hideous and grotesque.

    Is like when you face a villain in a videogame, is evil but a bit normal. But once you "defeat" him, it comes back in a monstrous way, (i.e. Ganondorf - Ganon).
    I like this MacPhisto.
    I’ll withhold full judgment until I see it live in Chicago, but I like this way of looking at it, too. A 21st century MacPhisto using 21st century technology to portray just how fucked up we’ve made things since the Zoo TV days. And yet the climax of a show that ends with the reassurance that “there is a light”...
  6. Why do they even need the theatrics? It's a rock n roll show, cut the crap. Been there, done it, seen it. Most people in the crowd are going to scratch their heads and wonder what it's all about
  7. They have been doing the theatric for at since ZooTV, I hardly think they'll stop now


  8. Well, he doesn't really care about rock n roll unless he sees it as an opportunity to bring a message he considers important, so regardless if we find it boring or awesome, he'll always end up preaching at different parts of the show.

    Also, Bono is definitely not a karaoke singer... he really has to get emotionally immersed in the songs, and when those songs are too emotionally demanding, and usually they are when he tries to preach, he needs to get into a character to be able to perform.

    Hence, theatrics will remain a constant in U2 shows as far as we know, because it's needed for the preaching, and the preaching is the reason why they bother playing a rock n roll show in the first place.
  9. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:[..]
    Wow, you connected Zelda and U2 in the same post!
    The idea of an aged, washed up MacPhisto sounds great on paper, but the execution still looks lame. Maybe they can put a fully animated segment in the screens after Desire with a good CGI MacPhisto and then the real Bono starts singing Acrobat.

    My only problem with the technology mishaps is that when we see Bono's face he looks really dumb. I'd guess that could be fixed very simple if Bono acted more like MacPhisto and not like MacPhisto's dumb cousin.

    Originally posted by bpt3:[..]
    I’ll withhold full judgment until I see it live in Chicago, but I like this way of looking at it, too. A 21st century MacPhisto using 21st century technology to portray just how fucked up we’ve made things since the Zoo TV days. And yet the climax of a show that ends with the reassurance that “there is a light”...
    ...and the reminder that also, there is a dark...
    These times, this show, and this MacPhisto are a lot darker than the early 90's...
  10. Originally posted by Bloodraven:[..]


    Well, he doesn't really care about rock n roll unless he sees it as an opportunity to bring a message he considers important, so regardless if we find it boring or awesome, he'll always end up preaching at different parts of the show.

    Also, Bono is definitely not a karaoke singer... he really has to get emotionally immersed in the songs, and when those songs are too emotionally demanding, and usually they are when he tries to preach, he needs to get into a character to be able to perform.

    Hence, theatrics will remain a constant in U2 shows as far as we know, because it's needed for the preaching, and the preaching is the reason why they bother playing a rock n roll show in the first place.
    They didn't need it for their first decade so I think it's pretty well irrelevant

    As much as anything I think they use it to hide
  11. Originally posted by dylbagz:[..]
    They didn't need it for their first decade so I think it's pretty well irrelevant

    As much as anything I think they use it to hide
    It's been extensively documented why they changed that after that first decade and stopped being so straight-forward and open-hearted, so it's definitely not irrelevant.
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