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  1. Usually he makes no problem out of this, I believe all his Amsterdam footage for instance is already with all the editors, same with Berlin. But this is a bit offtopic
  2. Originally posted by hoserama:For most folks, I think it'll come down to "sure we want quality, but we also want new and cheap."

    It's like the engineer's mantra--"fast, good, cheap. Pick two." And many folks are willing to pick just fast & cheap.

    And if you want *great* recordings, at least the kind that require good post-production mixing, then you throw out the fast & cheap components entirely.
    Don't forget the wording "effort" - every attempt should be made getting your recording the right way. The most expensive gear is worth nothing if you are not completely devoted to your job. Though only a few people may have a certain budget or willing to spend it in a range of estimated 5000-6000k.

    With cheap equipment (considering nowadadays even cellphones as such, built-in mics, etc.) you will not able to conduct things properly of course "Cheap" & "quality do simply not match up well, but as we both experience there is even a big demand for such releases and may have fetish character for some
    Personally I give such fails only a listen for curiosity (maybe a hidden preference for masochism) nothing more because I do not see any value in listening or even keeping them. They don't have any historic value (like 60's amateur recordings of e.g. Beatles shows may have since only a few shows were taped professionially) or making any sense in enjoying the music.

    Maybe the infamous & beloved "hockey puck" recording will write a new page in the history book of taping, who knows?
  3. so far i'm astonished there are so little silver cd bootlegs out there of the current tour ... the fact Godfatherecords were busted a few years ago really helped with that it would seem. unfortunately there are still moles pretty much everywhere supplying bootleggers with recordings to press.

    so far i'm lucky only one of my recordings this tour has gone through that (that is Barcelona 4), and that's why i'm reluctant in being the first to publicly release a recording of a show because most of the time you will be the one bootlegged, even if the recording you release after some others is better.

    was you sock recording bootlegged karl ?
  4. Originally posted by JulienLossless:so far i'm astonished there are so little silver cd bootlegs out there of the current tour ... the fact Godfatherecords were
    so far i'm lucky only one of my recordings this tour has gone through that (that is Barcelona 4),....
    was you sock recording bootlegged karl ?


    Ho Ho,

    Godfather records resurrected as Eat "the Peach" by the way, but congrats that your (hidden) Christian attitude became finally rewarded because you served a good cause providing money for suffering bootleg companies. Last but not least your friend Ollie66 would be also starving for your recordings too, so you maybe want to continue?
    The sock recording - you know what's the real background behind doing this, but anyway some of my recordings I dug out became also bootlegged for e.g. U2 "Dublin 87 sbd" and others (still wondering why those ***** didn't bootleg the 7CD's of Achtung Baby outtakes).

    Seriously there is no need for living in the past complaining about past mistakes since it would be wasting my valuable time time which is limited at the very moment as I got hands of plenty unrelased mixing desk recordings of some big players and not so well know bands besides doing the mixing of U2's last tour recordings.

    I will also throw something out in the wild in the near future (not a sock recording of course) on some well known torrent site.
  7. My opinions are the same. If it isn't your product to sell them you shouldn't be selling.

    But on the flip side if I see something very nicely presented from a show I was at then I'd often rather spend money on that instead of a generic tour t-shirt.
  8. Originally posted by ELIZIUM:[..]
    They often put on sale bootleg recordings if you search. Not only U2 but other bands. They have done this for years. At one point they were very prolific.
    *double facepalm*
  10. Originally posted by germcevoy:My opinions are the same. If it isn't your product to sell them you shouldn't be selling.

    But on the flip side if I see something very nicely presented from a show I was at then I'd often rather spend money on that instead of a generic tour t-shirt.
    That has been my thought on many occasion. A lot of my collection was done through trading at record fairs. Paying ridiculous money for bootlegs that are widely available online is crazy.

    The price on what I see is out there now often beggars belief, and yet people do pay top dollar too. I cannot see any justification in buying a four CD set for £100 or upward no matter what the packaging. There will always be a bootleg market and sadly the prices to command them.

    Saying that, the bootleggers realise that initial copies will always sell from a run of maybe 300/500, those that remain unsold always make their way done in price. Again, still costly for something that can be easily found on the internet from whence the recordings came anyway.

    I must say I do get enjoyment from dropping the needle on an old bootleg recording and hearing the music this way and would more than likely get one or two of the recent years tour instead of paying the silly T Shirt and merchandise prices. Distribution and weighing up of giving money to the thieves really on both accounts.

    Bootlegging is 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Being thoroughly shafted to your wallet is another thing entirely though!
  11. Ima weigh in and say that as the band has said that they don't mind bootlegs as long as people don't make money from them, then it's totally unethical to sell them (U2 ones), and as far as other bands go, people like Pearl Jam often release many of heir concerts as "official" bootlegs if I'm not mistaken, so other people shouldn't try and make money from them, and I'm sure if you asked any artist they wouldn't be happy with anyone else making money from unofficial releases..... would you go to the theatre, video the whole show and sell it on a homemade DVD?? The same thing goes for audio bootlegs imo - upload them to YouTube, upload them to u2start or other place where they're free for everyone, it don't release them at all, but don't - DON'T - try to make money from them when it's expressly against the wishes of the band - that's just being a dick (srry that was longer than I thought it'd be!!)
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