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  1. Originally posted by Remy:What a match I just saw, Real vs Barcelona. Just gallery play, best football played in the world, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, what a team. 6-2


    Indeed..was invited to joing the Dutch Barcelona fanclub in the Willem II-stadium in Tilburg to watch this game on screen. Lovely, lovely match and great to be part of these fanatic Barcelona-fans.
  2. Originally posted by Remy:What a match I just saw, Real vs Barcelona. Just gallery play, best football played in the world, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, what a team. 6-2


    I don't watch la liga often but it seems to me that Spanish teams don't know how to defend. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful stuff, but I just see many of thses goals being results of poor defending. For example on Messi's second goal the announcer in America was raving over Messi's play, but he didn't fo anything except finish, he was completly unmarked. Now, thats not to knock Messi, he is a fantastic player. Also, before anyone jumps to conclusions, I'm not trying to say the defensive show we (Chelsea) put on is the best way to play either, but come on...... humor me with a little better marking.
  3. Is the Championship already over?
  4. Originally posted by faust76:[..]

    I don't watch la liga often but it seems to me that Spanish teams don't know how to defend. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful stuff, but I just see many of thses goals being results of poor defending. For example on Messi's second goal the announcer in America was raving over Messi's play, but he didn't fo anything except finish, he was completly unmarked. Now, thats not to knock Messi, he is a fantastic player. Also, before anyone jumps to conclusions, I'm not trying to say the defensive show we (Chelsea) put on is the best way to play either, but come on...... humor me with a little better marking.


    It's just how you want to play a game. Thumbs up for Real Madrid but they played with the intention to win. Might be unrealistic, but well worth it when you want to see a nice game, with two teams playing to win.

    What Chelsea did last time vs Barcelona was playing to not lose, which might be more realistic, but also comes more close to killing the game, making it less attractive for the (neutral) viewers.
  5. I'm quite disapointed in Ajax
    4-0 loss against Sparta, the, here it comes, #13 of the Eredivisie
    And with a chance to become 2nd...what a weak team it is. Good players, but as team..no no no

    FC Twente (with Steve McClaren as coach) became well-deserved 2nd
  6. Originally posted by Remy:[..]

    What Chelsea did last time vs Barcelona was playing to not lose, which might be more realistic, but also comes more close to killing the game, making it less attractive for the (neutral) viewers.


    Credits to Guus Hiddink though. It's ugly to watch but the result is there.
  7. BOING BOING

    WEST BROMWICH ALBION ARE STAYING UP!!

    ONLY JOKING!!!


  8. Chelsea get the result which is best for their club regardless of what 'neutrals' want. Credit to the players and manager. Barcalona are cheater, divers and all the fans do it complain whenever Chelsea tackle. Football is about tackling and having a physical presents. The defending is so much better in England. Barca and Madrid wouldn't cope in the English Premiership.
  9. Is Barca or Madrid football more fun to watch than Chelsea football? Most likely - unless you're a Chelsea fan. But it would be stupid to demand of Chelsea not trying to win the game by playing as hard and effective as they possibly can. So they do it in the way they do best and most effectively - just like the Italian national team which nobody outside Italy likes. The German team has been playing a lot of matches that no non- German could like, too (I'm German).

    It's true that a single dive can turn the whole match around - so some players take every chance at a good dive. It's even more shameful that their fans will still demand every penalty they desperately try to get. And if the referee refuses these penalty attempts they can easily blame him for losing and whine that their club's "attractive football" has unjustedly been beaten by soulless destructive robot footballers who didn't deserve it.

    Professional football has become much more physical during the last twenty years. Sometimes it's downright brutal, and it makes me sad. But these are the rules - if the defender hits the ball first then it's no foul, now matter how hard he hits the forwarder a millisecond later. I doubt anyone can change that, so accept it as part of the game. These are modern gladiator games, and the sheer physicality is part of the attraction. Accept it with a tear but accept it - there's no beauty award in football but simple goal counting. If you want beauty then better go and watch ice figure skating.

    Alex
  10. Originally posted by Alex:Is Barca or Madrid football more fun to watch than Chelsea football? Most likely - unless you're a Chelsea fan. But it would be stupid to demand of Chelsea not trying to win the game by playing as hard and effective as they possibly can. So they do it in the way they do best and most effectively - just like the Italian national team which nobody outside Italy likes. The German team has been playing a lot of matches that no non- German could like, too (I'm German).

    It's true that a single dive can turn the whole match around - so some players take every chance at a good dive. It's even more shameful that their fans will still demand every penalty they desperately try to get. And if the referee refuses these penalty attempts they can easily blame him for losing and whine that their club's "attractive football" has unjustedly been beaten by soulless destructive robot footballers who didn't deserve it.

    Professional football has become much more physical during the last twenty years. Sometimes it's downright brutal, and it makes me sad. But these are the rules - if the defender hits the ball first then it's no foul, now matter how hard he hits the forwarder a millisecond later. I doubt anyone can change that, so accept it as part of the game. These are modern gladiator games, and the sheer physicality is part of the attraction. Accept it with a tear but accept it - there's no beauty award in football but simple goal counting. If you want beauty then better go and watch ice figure skating.

    Alex


    Football shouldn't be gentle. The kind of football played in England in the past decade was more brutal than it is now, I think.
  11. Originally posted by u2spear:[..]

    Chelsea get the result which is best for their club regardless of what 'neutrals' want. Credit to the players and manager. Barcalona are cheater, divers and all the fans do it complain whenever Chelsea tackle. Football is about tackling and having a physical presents. The defending is so much better in England. Barca and Madrid wouldn't cope in the English Premiership.


    Yeah, that's why 4-4 is a common result in England

  12. lol it really isn't unless Liverpool are involved

    Football is much less physical than it used to be in England, BUT the problem is that because of that decline in physicality, people seem to have got worse at tackling, and why we see far worse injuries doing the rounds, e.g. Eduardo/Taylor. There is still (on the whole) a much more physical and energetic approach than in other countries, but the kind of football that gets played now is a lot more different to that of the 70s/80s. On the subject of Chelsea & Barca etc., Chelsea's style of football at the Nou Camp was not pleasing on the eye for a neutral but you've got to give credit where credit's due - Guus Hiddink devised a gameplan to stunt Barca and the Blues came away with a very creditable draw (which could have even been a win had Drogba scored), and thus for those who enjoy the tactical side of the game, it was an intriguing match.

    Anyway, more closer to home, I'm still in mourning because Norwich City got relegated on Sunday to League 1 (i.e. the third division) for the first time since 1960 - useless buggers
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