1. How so, there clearly different songs, but there are similarities, they're both slow, melancholy rock ballads and they both have pipe organ (and handclaps).
    Certainly Lost is the closest thing on VLV to MoS.

  2. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    How so, there clearly different songs, but there are similarities, they're both slow, melancholy rock ballads and they both have pipe organ (and handclaps).
    Certainly Lost is the closest thing on VLV to MoS.




    MoS doesnt have handclaps... it's drums. Only live the audience claps


  3. Yep, if listened to on headphones, good speakers... instead of in a car, an ipod while doing other stuff, and things where you can't really pay attention to the music, I can see it being shrugged off for simple drums.

    I think the song is a masterpiece. From the intro with the looped-finger drum and lo-fi drum machine loops then when the synth swells in, it's musical heaven. With the electric piano mixed way to the right side and organ(sometimes mirroring what the piano is playing) on the far left side going back and forth between the two notes per chord. It's very easy to miss if you don't actually pay attention to how they are playing each instrument.

    Before the tour started, people kept saying that they didn't think Bono could get the high notes, but if listened to carefully it's Edge who's doing all the high backup parts with what sounds like a lot of high-pass reverb



    The problem with this compared to the last couple albums in my mind is that they made a "pay attention to me and don't do other things while you listen to it" album in a time when most popular things are mixed with everything at 10. Muse is a band that is a perfect example. If you listen to the album Absolution or Black Holes you can pretty much tell it was all put together on a computer, with how the different tracks come on and off. Most modern rock is like this too, they don't have the dynamics of albums like NLOTH, Everything up close sounds organic and human, instead of made with computers and studio wizardry.


    (Sorry if this sounds like a lot of babbling, i'm a few porters(6.7%) in)
  4. Originally posted by wyn525i:[..]

    Yep, if listened to on headphones, good speakers... instead of in a car, an ipod while doing other stuff, and things where you can't really pay attention to the music, I can see it being shrugged off for simple drums.

    I think the song is a masterpiece. From the intro with the looped-finger drum and lo-fi drum machine loops then when the synth swells in, it's musical heaven. With the electric piano mixed way to the right side and organ(sometimes mirroring what the piano is playing) on the far left side going back and forth between the two notes per chord. It's very easy to miss if you don't actually pay attention to how they are playing each instrument.

    Before the tour started, people kept saying that they didn't think Bono could get the high notes, but if listened to carefully it's Edge who's doing all the high backup parts with what sounds like a lot of high-pass reverb



    The problem with this compared to the last couple albums in my mind is that they made a "pay attention to me and don't do other things while you listen to it" album in a time when most popular things are mixed with everything at 10. Muse is a band that is a perfect example. If you listen to the album Absolution or Black Holes you can pretty much tell it was all put together on a computer, with how the different tracks come on and off. Most modern rock is like this too, they don't have the dynamics of albums like NLOTH, Everything up close sounds organic and human, instead of made with computers and studio wizardry.


    (Sorry if this sounds like a lot of babbling, i'm a few porters(6.7%) in)


    Yes, as always Eno's production is impeccable.
    Funnily I was just reading this article before I read your post, it also highlights some of the easily overlooked sonic detail present on the album:
    http://www.atu2.com/news/listeners-guide-to-no-line-on-the-horizon.html

  5. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    How so, there clearly different songs, but there are similarities, they're both slow, melancholy rock ballads and they both have pipe organ (and handclaps).
    Certainly Lost is the closest thing on VLV to MoS.




    Lost is neither slow nor melancholy. They also both have guitar and a singer but this does not make them similar.
  6. Originally posted by djrlewis:[..]

    Lost is neither slow nor melancholy. They also both have guitar and a singer but this does not make them similar.


    Are we talking about the same Lost?
    It is slow, melancholy and reflective, well at least the verses are.
    The chorus and bridge are more optimistic, but MoS is also like that.
    Ok it's not Thom Yorke depressive, but its certainly not a happy song.

    As for your second point, it's rock music, of course there's going to be guitar and a singer.
    It's not a unique characteristic like organ or handclaps, which both songs feature and are rarely seen in rock music.

    I don't know why you are doggedly refuting my view that the songs share similarities, i'm certainly not suggesting U2 copied Coldplay if that's what you're worried about