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  1. Glad I can show you something! I swear I thought thats why you put peace and love

  2. No. I didn't know that Ringo stole that phrase from me.

    Guess I'll sue him for royalties

    Alex
  3. Watching the Good Morning America performance of Get On Your Boots shows how far removed from "live" rock and roll U2 has come. Larry standing up and hitting a snare drum once every 4 beats while the drum loop booms over the PA is miserable, as is his bongos during the verses.
  4. Originally posted by haytrain:Watching the Good Morning America performance of Get On Your Boots shows how far removed from "live" rock and roll U2 has come. Larry standing up and hitting a snare drum once every 4 beats while the drum loop booms over the PA is miserable, as is his bongos during the verses.


    Larry's snare hits on the Roland are generating the sampled drum bit. Larry's playing the bongos as part of his drum pattern for "Boots", what is wrong with that? NOTHING.

    Some can complain all they want. If you don't 'approve' so much, don't go to the shows! MORE TICKETS FOR ME!

    No need to "hate"!

    But really... how about all of the haters can stay home and leave room for those fans that are fair to the band, believe in the band, trust the band to do what is best for the band, that are smart enough to see that U2 has done a pretty great job at being U2... and more important... are not so hyper-critical - Really.

  5. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:[..]

    Larry's snare hits on the Roland are generating the sampled drum bit. Larry's playing the bongos as part of his drum pattern for "Boots", what is wrong with that? NOTHING.

    Some can complain all they want. If you don't 'approve' so much, don't go to the shows! MORE TICKETS FOR ME!

    No need to "hate"!

    But really... how about all of the haters can stay home and leave room for those fans that are fair to the band, believe in the band, trust the band to do what is best for the band, that are smart enough to see that U2 has done a pretty great job at being U2... and more important... are not so hyper-critical - Really.




    Because when we pay money to see a band play, we'd really like to see as much of that as possible. Not piped out sounds and pre-recorded bits.

    My problem with him hitting the Roland is that it takes the band away from the live sound which they've perfected. Why move away from that? Back in the day, he (and most "rock & roll" bands today) played the songs live, as is. Sure technology has developed, but how fun is it to shell out that much money and see him hit something that initiates a whole drum loop? Not very.

    And you can't tell me that Larry isn't a WEE bit embarrassed for being in a rock & roll band and having sit there and play bongo drums while a pre-recorded bit plays the drum part for him. I ain't buying it.
  6. 1.) If Larry were embarassed, he wouldn't do it.

    Also, while Larry's drums have been mic'd, he those were processed through electronic drum modules, like the early Simmons SDS7 drum module as early as 1984 (The Unforgettable Fire tour)

    2.) U2 have used samples and loops since 1984. So really, U2 have used samples or loops for 25 of the 30 years since the release of U2-3.

    3.) If you don't like it or have issue with their integrity, that's fine. Maybe you should not go to see U2 live. Simple. So show your solidarity with your "purity" issues and just don't go.

    There are plenty of folks that'd love to go in your place. There are plenty of people that can see that the bulk of your argument does't hold up. There are plenty of people that would enjoy the show more than you would, as you would seem to have some resentment of their use of any electronics outside of guitars, amps, drums and microphones.
  7. Larry does look a bit uncomfortable when he's standing up and singing during the bridge


  8. Again, he wouldn't do it if he were 'uncomfortable' with it. He could play the electronic pad sitting down. But his standing is part 'show'. Show in that he can be seen singing and show in that they are emphasizing the power of that bridge. There is no shame in that.
  9. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:1.) If Larry were embarassed, he wouldn't do it.

    Also, while Larry's drums have been mic'd, he those were processed through electronic drum modules, like the early Simmons SDS7 drum module as early as 1984 (The Unforgettable Fire tour)

    2.) U2 have used samples and loops since 1984. So really, U2 have used samples or loops for 25 of the 30 years since the release of U2-3.

    3.) If you don't like it or have issue with their integrity, that's fine. Maybe you should not go to see U2 live. Simple. So show your solidarity with your "purity" issues and just don't go.

    There are plenty of folks that'd love to go in your place. There are plenty of people that can see that the bulk of your argument does't hold up. There are plenty of people that would enjoy the show more than you would, as you would seem to have some resentment of their use of any electronics outside of guitars, amps, drums and microphones.


    that's not what i'm saying at all, but since you've got me pegged as a U2-hater and ungrateful, i suppose trying to clarify my position wouldn't do anyone any good. Not even gonna try and respond.

    agree to disagree i suppose.
  10. Okay, you are not a hater. But your position does appear hyper-critical of how U2 perform shows.

    I was pointing out that U2 have used the same or similar technology, that they are using now, for 25 of their 30 years; since the release of U2-3, so how is it bad that they do so now?

    But sure, I think you're a good guy. We just don't agree on this. You have your opinion, and I'm right !!!! (Just messing w/you)
  11. Nice discussion fellas
    I'm slightly on Jeff's side here, but you have some good arguments too Jeremy
  12. I did not smell any U2 hate around here. At least not in this thread.

    We're allowed to not like everything about U2. We're also allowed to like everything. We just share our opinions and explain our reasons. I don't think we're over- critical here.

    I already mentioned in numerous threads that I think NLOTH is among the better U2 albums, close behind their masterpieces AB and JT. But I don't hesitate to also point out that I love to hear my live music "real" live, and that I'd like to hear U2 play this way. That's all. No offence intended. I love U2 anyway and will probably visit a concert - and then again, probably not; I assume it'll be expensive.

    Alex
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