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  1. Give Walloon to France, they're actually the same culture-wise. Flanders is a part of Belgium I love, they should be a country.
  2. Originally posted by LikeASong:Not a continent itself, you're right, but it's a continental association (if that makes any sense lol) That's what I meant. It's different than a country for sure.

    I think the only real solution would be calling for new elections AND if they don't success again, then dissolve the new formed parlament and call for a referendum regarding the creation of two (three?) new countries.


    I am afraid the time for new elections has passed. The whole thing is stupid anyway since there are no borders in the EU and the EP gets more political power every day.


  3. You see, you don't quite get the idea of the country and it's government. Government is there because of you, YOU finance it and therefore the government should be at service to you.


    @BelgianBono: I don't believe that the county will split up. Just look at Bosnia and Herzegovina which is in worse position for decades now.

    It's possible that UK media is overreacting, who knows, maybe they want to point out instability of EU since they're not in it.
  4. Difference with Bosnia and Herzegovina is that that it always has been an artificial country. You cant just draw borders on a map and expect it to be a success.

    Belgium on the other hand is dissolving slowly in two seperate countries. It has been for years that the 'language war' has been going on. When i was there on holiday we spoke Dutch with a guy, he answered in French. Everywhere citynames slashed and replaced with the name in the other language.

    I dont see any perspective for Belgium as it is now, both parties are better off alone. I know some Dutchies and Belgians like to reunite. I would have nothing against The Dutch and Flemish Federation with 2 states in it, Nederland en Vlaanderen.

    Dont see that happening though, our countries may even grown further apart than the Flemish are from the Walloons.


  5. sadly true
    because some people get advantages from him and others are simply blind!!! and they are the majority .. more or less

    sometimes i'm wondering how Europe can be united if the single nations can't




  6. De facto i.e not not really!!!
  7. The idea of 3 countries doesn't make sense to me either...
    But that was the best solution according to a study from 12 different specialists


    Originally posted by LikeASong:
    I think the only real solution would be calling for new elections AND if they don't success again, then dissolve the new formed parlament and call for a referendum regarding the creation of two (three?) new countries.


    You're probably right... Last elections, even though they don't seem to help, last chance and then a referendum. Only thing is that I can already predict the outcome : half of Flanders will vote for independance, almost every Walloon will want to keep Belgium as it is.
    EDIT : So actually we're back to zero then

    But Yuri said there hasn't been a referendum in Czechoslavakia for splitting up the country I didn't know that. Feels weird and unnatural to me...



    @ Risto's idea of Brussels under the EU flag : that's also a possibilty yes. Or Brussels as some kind of medieval city-state. But as Sergio said, I have no idea how the people in Brussels think about that...

    Also @ Risto : with all respect for the Dutchies, I think we're too different to feel as one
    Good partners, no doubt, but the same... No.
  8. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    sadly true
    because some people get advantages from him and others are simply blind!!! and they are the majority .. more or less

    sometimes i'm wondering how Europe can be united if the single nations can't




    Sorry, I had to make a different post for that last sentence alone.

    You're absolutely right! Sometimes ridiculous small areas (when compared to other parts of the world) want to be independant : Flanders, Catalonia (90% is pro ?!), Basque country (no idea of that's the right name), Bretagne (so I heard), Scotland wants to hold a referendum for independance, there's still these troubles in Northern Ireland....
    And then we want to reunite them all in the EU
    Ever seen the buildings in Strasbourg or with how many they hold conferences there ? Insane



    About Italy : I have no idea how tha majority of the Italians can still be pro-Berlusconi...
    I've been there for 2 weeks, right before elections in 2008 (btw how many parties do you have, 100 or what ), everybody I spoke to said to have had enough of him, but look who's still in charge... Sex parties (with some -18 year old girls...), probably connections with the maffia...
    Oh well, I'm glad you seem to be against him
  9. I'm really looking forward to see Berlusconi jailed.


  10. absolutely i am!!!



    me too with all my heart
    in these days constitutional court is discussing against a law, guess who made it? , that put members of goverment away from being processed.
    but it seems it's going nowhere
    he, the malefic midget as i call him, should have 3 trials at the moment; other trials were deleted because parliament approved some decree-law which deletes that kind of crimes.

    day by day italy is going far away from democracy
  11. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    absolutely i am!!!

    [..]

    me too with all my heart
    in these days constitutional court is discussing against a law, guess who made it? , that put members of goverment away from being processed.
    but it seems it's going nowhere
    he, the malefic midget as i call him, should have 3 trials at the moment; other trials were deleted because parliament approved some decree-law which deletes that kind of crimes.

    day by day italy is going far away from democracy


    At college we watched brilliant documentary called "Videocracy" about the way things are done by Berlusconi.



  12. Trailer for the new Zeitgeist documentary, it's a must see ;)
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