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  1. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Go to hell. Thats how Americans are. We help each other because we choose too. We dont need the governement to play middle man.


    You seriously think charity is better than getting it from the state? With charity the poor will not exactly get an as equal amount of money as when the money's coming from the state. But oh, that's right, you don't give much of a shit about equality.
  2. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    You seriously think charity is better than getting it from the state? With charity the poor will not exactly get an as equal amount of money as when the money's coming from the state. But oh, that's right, you don't give much of a shit about equality.


    Theres something inherently wrong, with taking money from someone to give it to someone else. If I want to give my money to crack addicts I can do it on my own, anyway. I believe it was Ben Franklin, a man well known for his charity who said the best thing to be done for the poor is to make them uncomfortable, in there poverty so they will improve themselves.
  3. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Theres something inherently wrong, with taking money from someone to give it to someone else. If I want to give my money to crack addicts I can do it on my own, anyway. I believe it was Ben Franklin, a man well known for his charity who said the best thing to be done for the poor is to make them uncomfortable, in there poverty so they will improve themselves.


    And how exactly are they going to get out of their poverty? You can't a job and you think they have a better chance?
  4. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    And how exactly are they going to get out of their poverty? You can't a job and you think they have a better chance?


    I'm the kind of guy who belives in giving a hand-up, not a handout.

    "Give a man a fish, and you will feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and hes covered for life"-Chinese proverb that I butchered.
  5. Feeling you should be entitled to something without having to give something in return is a classic symptom of narcisism. I for one am happy to in a country which has rejected the entitlement culture. November 2010 was good. November 2012 will be better.

    HERMAN CAIN 2012!!!!


    "The government which provides you with anything will take away everything including your dignity"-Thomas Jefferson.


  6. Oh.
    My.
    God.

    Then go to Antarctica and be on your own, without state and without government and see how it goes. Good luck.




    Funny. Every working man pays to his country. It's called tax. You get nothing for free from your country. You pay for everything. Don't be naive. Of course I expect my country to finance my health care and my college because they're taking certain amount of money from my salary every month.

    On the other side, when you live in USA, you also pay taxes and you still have to pay to hospital to fix your broken leg.



  7. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Oh.
    My.
    God.

    Then go to Antarctica and be on your own, without state and without government and see how it goes. Good luck.


    [..]

    Funny. Every working man pays to his country. It's called tax. You get nothing for free from your country. You pay for everything. Don't be naive. Of course I expect my country to finance my health care and my college because they're taking certain amount of money from my salary every month.

    On the other side, when you live in USA, you also pay taxes and you still have to pay to hospital to fix your broken leg.






    I never said I want to be completely on my home you imature SOB. I just want a small governement.

    And since the goverenment pays for you college and healthecare, they can take them away at any time.

    Sometimes in the dark hours of the night I think about how my life would have turned out had i gone to college on the governements dime. Than I come here, and decide becoming an elitist ass woulnd't be worth the education.
  8. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    I never said I want to be completely on my home you imature SOB. I just want a small governement.

    And since the goverenment pays for you college and healthecare, they can take them away at any time.

    Sometimes in the dark hours of the night I think about how my life would have turned out had i gone to college on the governements dime. Than I come here, and decide becoming an elitist ass woulnd't be worth the education.


    Of coure they can't take it away when they want. It's democracy - people decide.

    Soooo...anybody with higher education is an elitist ass? : ))))))))))))
  9. Europeans can do it without government too,but they know that it is way better with government.And what is government ? They are Europeans too.It is democracy that keeps them move,keep that in mind while talking about Europe.

    And Mr.Trek is right,so one day some liberal will wake up,and say today I don't feel like a charity-lover,so I am keeping my money for myself.

    What can you do about that ?
    Nothing.
    As Bono said : 'It is not charity that keeps me moving,It is only justice.''

  10. Let's talk about something we can all agree to be outraged about...Casey Anthony was found not guilty of murder today. Murdered her own child in cold blood and got off with almost nothing...Justice at work!!


  11. I guess some of that is aimed at me, and I'll take it as a compliment being a highly educated elitist ass when I have on year left in the mandatory school in Sweden, which is in no way even a "medium" education
  12. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Of coure they can't take it away when they want. It's democracy - people decide.

    Soooo...anybody with higher education is an elitist ass? : ))))))))))))


    Because the government always listens to the people. If they did Obamacare would never have passed here.

    And I stand by my statement. Anyone who got an education they didn't earn is an elitist ass.
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