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  1. I think I would enjoy this song if the sound quality was better. The mp3 I have sounds like crap and I had no luck finding one better.
  2. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:I think I would enjoy this song if the sound quality was better. The mp3 I have sounds like crap and I had no luck finding one better.
    Why don't you download the MP4 of "Linear"? That's where I extracted my MP3 from
  4. Originally posted by MoFoNYR15:I think I would enjoy this song if the sound quality was better. The mp3 I have sounds like crap and I had no luck finding one better.
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  5. Great song!!!

    Really great lyrics and vocals!

    Should have been on the album!


  8. Why wasn't it?

    As we know from various articles, U2 were considering two different tracks instead of either Fez / Being Born and White As Snow. Winter and Every Breaking Wave were those two other tracks being considered. Supposedly, Every Breaking Wave would have made the album too long. Winter is easily up there with anything from the last ten years. Only maybe five or six songs compare with how brilliant the song is.

    Six minutes is not long for a song at all - radio and the masses, maybe - but not for an epic record, which U2 missed yet again. I love 20-minute tracks because they're like jam sessions and are the kinds of songs made when you're just not expecting it. If this is the way U2 are gonna go in the next ten years, then it's gonna be a decade of unforgettable U2, as opposed to 2000 - 2006 "forgettable U2". And most people would admit that. ATYCLB has some beauties, HTDAAB not as much but a few nice tunes, but definitely their worst period to date.

    It's also interesting to note U2 have experimented with long tracks. Miracle Drug was to be a 15-minute track, originally. Even seven minutes, which a lot of people are saying "Aargh, too long!!! Longer than Lemon???" - is not that long for a song. There's no reason why U2 couldn't have included Winter after Cedars of Lebanon - it would have bought the album to 59 minutes and 59 seconds - which still, is not too long for your first record in five years.

    This is why I think it will end up on the next record as a core track or hidden. Because I have a feeling that's gonna have a short selection of tracks - like an EP, with seven or eight tracks - but the tracks are going to be longer than some on NLOTH of up to eight and maybe ten minutes. This was said to be their progressive record. I don't think it's anywhere close. Maybe progressive on the 2000 - 2004 front (progressing on pure guitar), but not anywhere else. Winter is a perfect example of what U2 can do when they're not trying.

    As such, I've added it at the end of the record as I find it a beautiful track. It could be the best U2 song since Stay. You think that's the end when you hear "Gonna last with you longer than your friends", but then Winter starts up and changes everything you'd heard in those previous 54 minutes to "It's a good record" to "That's a fucking fantastic record". Eno is definitely getting into his ambient phase again - and this song is similar to The Harness. Songs like Winter just aren't made any more.

    If those three mid-rock tracks (Crazy Tonight, Get On Your Boots, Stand Up Comedy) had all been left out (for a future record or even a single) and Winter, Every Breaking Wave and any other track had been added, it would have definitely been a progressive record.

    As for most controversial song from No Line, I think we'd all agree that it would be Get On Your Boots. 80% of people don't like it, the other 20% do. I admit I love it because it sounds like Big Girls Are Best, which was another fantastic track removed from Pop. It couldn't be Winter because the masses haven't heard it yet - but I hope to God they do.



    Sorry, a little off-topic but I believe most of that is relevant to what we're discussing.
  9. Nice food for though Drew. Agree with almost all of it.


  11. I can't top your explanation of it, but I've done what you did. I put it straight after Cedars. I think it's a nice way to top off the album - from those majestic opening notes, Edge chiming in perfectly to Bono's beautifully descriptive, yet almost self-loathing lyrics (the thought of him talking like he's still 25 is very interesting also) and that hauntying operatic outro. Just a perfect song. I won't forgive the band for leaving it off the album.

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