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  1. What an interesting topic. Now I have been a practicing Catholic for most of my life. In high school my religion became more important to me since I was having trouble fitting in as well as other bad stuff going on in my life(medical) wise. Now since I am in college and healthier then I have ever been I find myself questioning the very faith I practiced. I don't believe everything in the bible anymore. It just seems like a fairytale some of the tales while others could have happened. I believe fully that we were made from particles of the universe. Not sure if it is Gods will.

    My Priest who I work for told me two weeks ago to go to church whereas I have gone faithfully there for years until he came along. No one really is too fond of him either. He preaches too much which is tiresome in his sermons. He also doesn't respect how believe differently since he won't allow anyone who isn't catholic go on CCD trips with them.You think Priests would practice what they preach but he is a rude individual who only cares about getting more money for the church.

    I guess I now identify myself as (Agnostic) Catholic. My faith is a mixture of both if it can ever be that way.
  2. Agnostic. Going to church (I'm technically C of E Christian) does little for me but I have seen the benefit if the community of the church for family and friends.

    I find my peace in the mountains.
  3. I'm Roman Catholic and go to church every Sunday, which is not considered to be cool by my peers, but what the heck. If I had lived in the 16th century, I think I would have joined the Lutherans, though. I think that the church you're a member of isn't that important, it's your personal relationship with God that matters the most.
  4. Agnostic.
  5. I'm not atheist... But I don't like any organized religions. Because all organized religions as any non religious ideologies are the way to use it for make own power and all the worst evils were made in the name of ideology or religion (fascism, comunism, current terroristic attacks, crusades, inquisition etc...).
    And nobody will tell me how should I believe...
    I believe there is some "energy" or what (not any saint person)... I can't entitle it... But I don't think everything is effect of evolution and nature...
    So all I can say is: "I believe"
  6. I never go to church, only as a tourist in foreign cities during holidays to make pictures....
    To me, real belief and the church have very little to do with one another. Until I was 15 years old, I was somewhat forced by my parents to go to church every weekend and I begged them to please allow me not to go anymore.
    The only church I liked in those days, was a small church in a small community a few kilometers from where I used to live: there was this priest who was always drunk and rushed his mass within 20 minutes, just to go back to the bar afterwards. At that time, I thought it was pretty cool, until he parked his Ford Fiesta against a lamp post....

    Anyway, no church and especially no bible for me. I think when you hold the bible upwards for ten minutes, the blood comes out at the bottom.

    To me, belief is something very personal and I do believe in God, but not in what mankind made of him through the years.
    I don't think he is a guy in a white robe flying on a cloud somewhere or walking on water in his spare time.
  7. I'm with Dawkins on this one. They're all a waste of time and succor to weak people who are unable to make decisions for themselves. Religion takes a person's mind from them.
    "Hmm, what what Jesus do in this situation?" It doesn't matter one bit what he's do - what do YOU think you should do. By plumping for a religion, you allow moral codes drawn up many, many years ago which often have no bearing on contemporary life to influence and guide your actions. It's ridiculous and by this point in history, I'd have thought that the human race would be past all this bollocks by now. Look at Uganda - the proposed jailing/death penalty for homosexuality is endorsed by both Christian and Islamic leaders. Their religions tell them that homosexuality is wrong, not their own moral compasses. The indoctrination of young people into religions is shameful and incomprehensible. Get rid of them, get rid of them all. It's almost 2010; time to grow up, world.
  8. Hmm, although your choice of words is somewhat blunt, I can only agree with you.
    Religion is the basis of removing all personal responsibility and accountability.
  9. I do believe in some kind of supernatural force. But as some above i dont believe in religion as a system. Its so weird to have people fighting just because the name of the religion, while the 'content' of most religions is not far apart at all.

    Nothing wrong with using religion as a guideline, but it gets tricky when a book written at another time and in another place is interpreted to strictly. People should make the right decisions by them selves, using other persons, views, opinions, common decency as guidelines.

    If i had to pick, I'd chose Christianity. But my choice much more to do with culture than faith.
  10. Originally posted by Risto:People should make the right decisions by them selves, using other persons, views, opinions, common decency as guidelines.


    Nice one! Nothing to add here..
  11. Originally posted by thejonner:I'm with Dawkins on this one. They're all a waste of time and succor to weak people who are unable to make decisions for themselves. Religion takes a person's mind from them.
    "Hmm, what what Jesus do in this situation?" It doesn't matter one bit what he's do - what do YOU think you should do. By plumping for a religion, you allow moral codes drawn up many, many years ago which often have no bearing on contemporary life to influence and guide your actions. It's ridiculous and by this point in history, I'd have thought that the human race would be past all this bollocks by now. Look at Uganda - the proposed jailing/death penalty for homosexuality is endorsed by both Christian and Islamic leaders. Their religions tell them that homosexuality is wrong, not their own moral compasses. The indoctrination of young people into religions is shameful and incomprehensible. Get rid of them, get rid of them all. It's almost 2010; time to grow up, world.

    I know, religion can really be a terrible thing.
    On the other hand, it's produced great people like Martin Luther King, so we can't always be pissed at religion. People should make up their own minds, but some people need religion to get through daily life, and we can't just take that away from them.

    *massive sigh*

    I'm gonna just go with George Carlin here "Keep thy religion to thyself"


    Oh yes!
  12. "Keep Thy Religion To Thyself" is a good one.

    But just to be clear here: there's nothing wrong with believing in God -whatever that God's name may be- but I have a problem when people start using religion or "God" to force their opinions and values upon others (the citation above from Mr. Carlin comes into mind).

    And I also think that the church and (holy????) bible have very little to do with God.
    God is what a person makes of it, what his/her feelings are about the matter.
    For instance, my wife was never baptised but she is probably the truest believer I've ever met.
    And because she didn't grow up with indoctrination from any kind regarding this matter, her look upon things can be very refreshing.

    And my children are now at an age that they start asking questions about religion.
    When they ask: "Should we believe in God?" we always answer: "Just believe in yourself".
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