1. Not that surprising, weak singles and weak album sales. Was to be expected that others would take the grammy's this year.
  2. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Oh yes, I forgot Beyonce!

    How do you feel a halo? Does she even know what a halo is?

    Real music is on its deadbed, it's all downhill from here

    I think I now want U2 to go down the Radiohead fuck what everyone thinks route and just make the music that they want to make and not pander to popular taste and the whims of the music industry.

    I want them to 'lose it' again and make another Pop. Bring back some of the insanity - hell bring back all of it



    She probably does, but did she write the song? The outside writers probably don't. When I saw who won on the news, I said ''It's all crap that won, minus two''. ''It's all great stuff, maybe not what you're into.'' No, certainly not what I'm into, but it sucks regardless. Any person with half a brain can see that.

    Oh - and real music on it's deathbed, downhill from here? It's been going downhill from the early 70s. U2 probably won't make something radically different, especially after the reaction to this current effort. It'll be safe yet again, you know, the tedious and friendly shit. Catering to the lowest common denominator.
  3. So another Beyonce fest The Grammys are ridiculous.

    U2 should have won a Grammy for NLOTH, their finest album in years, but Achtung Baby! also got ignored, so maybe that's not a bad sign.

    NLOTH is so much better than the Green Day album, but then again it's not a "rock album", so it was basically nominated in the wrong category.

    Magnificent should have been nominated and won, not Crazy, the weakest song on the album.

    I think we have to get rid of the idea that the Grammys are important any longer. If you look at the list of winners, they are mostly ridiculous. The whole music industry is screwed up. I don't care about awards much, but it would have been nice to see the band at the ceremony.
  4. Originally posted by Cypress:So another Beyonce fest The Grammys are ridiculous.

    U2 should have won a Grammy for NLOTH, their finest album in years, but Achtung Baby! also got ignored, so maybe that's not a bad sign.

    NLOTH is so much better than the Green Day album, but then again it's not a "rock album", so it was basically nominated in the wrong category.

    Magnificent should have been nominated and won, not Crazy, the weakest song on the album.

    I think we have to get rid of the idea that the Grammys are important any longer. If you look at the list of winners, they are mostly ridiculous. The whole music industry is screwed up. I don't care about awards much, but it would have been nice to see the band at the ceremony.


    What Cypress said
  5. We'll at least we didn't have to hear another Bono speech where he's saying how U2 is the biggest band in the world and all.
  6. Originally posted by Cypress:I think we have to get rid of the idea that the Grammys are important any longer. If you look at the list of winners, they are mostly ridiculous. The whole music industry is screwed up. I don't care about awards much, but it would have been nice to see the band at the ceremony.


    They haven't been important since 1958. Anyone that takes them seriously needs to look at themselves and the RRHoF is similar in irrelevancy.
  7. so it remains their most underrated


  8. Why when all the big press publications and magazines gave it three stars and higher? That's not bad at all for an album like that?

    October and Pop are their most underrated. War, HTDAAB and ATYCLB are way overrated for what they are. You can't tell me those albums are better than this new one, and the songs are actually even better? Tastes definitely differ - I must have a strange taste to love OST1 and October more than War.

    I should add I'm completely disappointed by Non-Classical Engineering Award going to Brendan O'Brien. The same idiot who pumps up recordings so damn loud they give you a headache - on Bruce Springsteen's Working On A Dream and AC/DC's Black Ice (as well as the horrible job on Aerosmith's Pump in 1989) - he should be banned from every recording studio in the world.
  9. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    Why when all the big press publications and magazines gave it three stars and higher? That's not bad at all for an album like that?

    October and Pop are their most underrated. War, HTDAAB and ATYCLB are way overrated for what they are. You can't tell me those albums are better than this new one, and the songs are actually even better? Tastes definitely differ - I must have a strange taste to love OST1 and October more than War.

    I should add I'm completely disappointed by Non-Classical Engineering Award going to Brendan O'Brien. The same idiot who pumps up recordings so damn loud they give you a headache - on Bruce Springsteen's Working On A Dream and AC/DC's Black Ice (as well as the horrible job on Aerosmith's Pump in 1989) - he should be banned from every recording studio in the world.


    maybe Pop was even more underrated, October is just a bit crappy.


  10. I just like that kind of rock. I have nothing against Pop either - it seems rough as hell like it's just something put together without thinking, but it's exceptional.

    October is the best album of 1981 - it took me until the remasters to really get into it. The remaster of War still sucks bad. I just don't think I'll ever like it.

  11. To be fair, she does pop music, not folk music. And she's what, 19? You can't expect but so much from her.
    Although her winning best album is a load of crap

    And you guys really make me feel bad for liking Beyonce

    Originally posted by drewhiggins:
    Oh - and real music on it's deathbed, downhill from here? It's been going downhill from the early 70s. U2 probably won't make something radically different, especially after the reaction to this current effort. It'll be safe yet again, you know, the tedious and friendly shit. Catering to the lowest common denominator.

    Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, music is great right now. It's just not in the Top 40
  12. Originally posted by katherine94:[..]
    To be fair, she does pop music, not folk music. And she's what, 19? You can't expect but so much from her.
    Although her winning best album is a load of crap

    And you guys really make me feel bad for liking Beyonce

    [..]
    Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, music is great right now. It's just not in the Top 40


    I know there is great music right now but it annoys me more people aren't exposed to it but these corporate-cock monkeys win awards for all style and no substance.

    And most commercial music has been shit since the 70s but even then plenty of great stuff, just not so well known was being made. It seems most of the general public wants music that you can instantly love. It should take a couple or even three listens before you can get into it. It shows the creative challenge is there, and I love that. Take the new ACDC album - it took me a year to get into it but I have and quite enjoy it (but isn't challenging - is ACDC ever challenging?) but it has what the mainstream doesn't: hard dirty rock.