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The new chorus has got to be one of the most cringiest U2 choruses ever.

Originally posted by u2opra:The new chorus has got to be one of the most cringiest U2 choruses ever.

I agree in some parts. However, I was singing along hard while they played it and singing those lines. Just don't think about what you're singing lol

haytrain

14 years

Funny to think of what fans would think of the final versions of "the hits" (Streets, UV, WOWY, BD, IWF) if they were privy to the earliest incarnations of them like they were for Mercy. If U2 ever release an official version of Mercy, the bitching about the changes that were made since that first leak won't go away, which is kind of a shame.

germcevoy

14 years

Mercy is fine. We are the problem. As fanboys we are never ever ever going to be fully satisfied. Ever. If Mercy made it onto Bomb it wouldn't be half the song we all thought it was. It would have been played to death and bcame what COBL is today. But it didn't make it on the album so it suddenly became this mythic legend that we all kind of worshipped (like other songs that never make it live like Acrobat, Fez etc). Play a great song long enough and the greatness will fail (Streets, One, Bad, Unforgettable Fire, WOWY, MLK, Walk On etc).

Mercy is the biggest curve ball we are ever likely to see and that's what we should be praising.

Weak song?, used to be good?, gay chorus?, a failed holy grail? None of it matters. Long like the curve balls.

RememberEveryMoment

14 years

Originally posted by germcevoy:Mercy is fine. We are the problem. As fanboys we are never ever ever going to be fully satisfied. Ever. If Mercy made it onto Bomb it wouldn't be half the song we all thought it was. It would have been played to death and bcame what COBL is today. But it didn't make it on the album so it suddenly became this mythic legend that we all kind of worshipped (like other songs that never make it live like Acrobat, Fez etc). Play a great song long enough and the greatness will fail (Streets, One, Bad, Unforgettable Fire, WOWY, MLK, Walk On etc).

Mercy is the biggest curve ball we are ever likely to see and that's what we should be praising.

Weak song?, used to be good?, gay chorus?, a failed holy grail? None of it matters. Long like the curve balls.

+1. And hey, gay chorus? why? Not their gayest song imo,..

I can only encourage gay choruses

LikeASong

14 years

+2.

KaiserJose

14 years

-1

Not that a disagree with your point, it's just a never see minus' applied and, as with all else, I am an innovator

BelgianBono

14 years

@ djrlewis and vanquish

No need to argue about what i said, as long as it's friendly, i respect everyone's opinion and reaction

I kinda understand vanquish's point about the Placebo-effect, but only partly agree.
Of course if you're sitting in a stadium with 70 000 other fans, all pumped up with adrenaline, you'll think anything is (slightly) better than on the bootlegs/cd's you've heard before. I'm aware of that.

BUT, before the 2nd night in Brussels, i had the same thoughts about HMTMKMKM and well, i still disliked it after hearing it live...
Also in the stadium it seemed like people had much better reactions towards Mercy than Batman (imo).

So i guess there's just something about the song that works live. A lot of other songs have the same effect. Kinda unexplainable... I think you can only judge it after hearing it live yourself.

Final thing about the Placebo effect :
If it's a reason or not, it's still a great thing that U2 CAN make songs better live than on boots and cd's, most of the groups nowaday's are totally unable of doing that.

u2opra

14 years

Originally posted by haytrain:Funny to think of what fans would think of the final versions of "the hits" (Streets, UV, WOWY, BD, IWF) if they were privy to the earliest incarnations of them like they were for Mercy. If U2 ever release an official version of Mercy, the bitching about the changes that were made since that first leak won't go away, which is kind of a shame.

That's kind of irrelevant, well in my case. I don't care so much that the studio version was better or weaker than the live version or the simple fact it's an early version. The fact is, it's poor compared to other songs we've heard from U2 - even other ones we've heard in the early stages. It's feels to me, almost absolute madness that Bono can feel confident enough, in a live setting, to use such weak, lousy, lazy, lyrics which he believes to be for the better. It's like, I don't know, he has gone completely backwards with his writing. You know, it often makes me ask the question of "and this guy wrote Bad, Streets, WOWY and One?" because it just seems so unbelievably bad.

A U2 fan, shouldn't have to cringe from lyrics like that - they should be able to embrace the song but sadly it doesn't make me or others feel like that.

So dare I ask:

WHERE IS BONO AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH HIM?!

djrlewis

14 years

Originally posted by u2opra:[..]

That's kind of irrelevant, well in my case. I don't care so much that the studio version was better or weaker than the live version or the simple fact it's an early version. The fact is, it's poor compared to other songs we've heard from U2 - even other ones we've heard in the early stages. It's feels to me, almost absolute madness that Bono can feel confident enough, in a live setting, to use such weak, lousy, lazy, lyrics which he believes to be for the better. It's like, I don't know, he has gone completely backwards with his writing. You know, it often makes me ask the question of "and this guy wrote Bad, Streets, WOWY and One?" because it just seems so unbelievably bad.

A U2 fan, shouldn't have to cringe from lyrics like that - they should be able to embrace the song but sadly it doesn't make me or others feel like that.

So dare I ask:

WHERE IS BONO AND WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH HIM?!

Good Lord, they're not that bad

djrlewis

14 years

Originally posted by germcevoy:Mercy is fine. We are the problem. As fanboys we are never ever ever going to be fully satisfied. Ever. If Mercy made it onto Bomb it wouldn't be half the song we all thought it was. It would have been played to death and bcame what COBL is today. But it didn't make it on the album so it suddenly became this mythic legend that we all kind of worshipped (like other songs that never make it live like Acrobat, Fez etc). Play a great song long enough and the greatness will fail (Streets, One, Bad, Unforgettable Fire, WOWY, MLK, Walk On etc).

Mercy is the biggest curve ball we are ever likely to see and that's what we should be praising.

Weak song?, used to be good?, gay chorus?, a failed holy grail? None of it matters. Long like the curve balls.

Well said mate

u2opra

14 years

Originally posted by djrlewis:[..]

Good Lord, they're not that bad

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

For me, yes they are, and also in my opinion, definitely one of Bono's worst - definitely up there with the "butter on toast" lyric from Winter. Hence why I said " It's feels to me", which refers to the fact it was my opinion.

Neither of us are wrong or right. Two differing opinions. That is all.

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