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U2 playing Kashmir, hmm...

Nope, can't see it. Not enough guitar for Edge. In My Time of Dying, yes, that might work.

ahn1991

I don't know how anyone can go to an IE show, then say it's pretty much the same old "U2 garbage." Maybe if you're going in there with sunglasses even darker than Bono's then perhaps you can say that the setlist is boring while ignoring everything else happening in the venue. Personally, I don't think U2 are taking the fans for granted. I think the fans are starting to take U2 for granted. People calling this show "all safe bets no balls" really have no appreciation for the greater themes in play during the show. The only thing people seem to care about are setlists. There's really no pleasing some people here. And to even put a U2 show in the same sentence as "garbage"? What the fuck is that bullshit? I don't think any "fan" would have gone to a show and have the first thing come out of their mouth when they walk out of the arena be "that show was fucking garbage."

Yeah, everyone's got an opinion but holy shit are we a fansite or a trash site?

Remy

9 years

Originally posted by ahn1991:I don't know how anyone can go to an IE show, then say it's pretty much the same old "U2 garbage." Maybe if you're going in there with sunglasses even darker than Bono's then perhaps you can say that the setlist is boring while ignoring everything else happening in the venue. Personally, I don't think U2 are taking the fans for granted. I think the fans are starting to take U2 for granted. People calling this show "all safe bets no balls" really have no appreciation for the greater themes in play during the show. The only thing people seem to care about are setlists. There's really no pleasing some people here. And to even put a U2 show in the same sentence as "garbage"? What the fuck is that bullshit? I don't think any "fan" would have gone to a show and have the first thing come out of their mouth when they walk out of the arena be "that show was fucking garbage."

Yeah, everyone's got an opinion but holy shit are we a fansite or a trash site?

+1.

As well, 10 new songs is unprecedented in U2's history since the Popmart tour. They played more unique songs in the first 10 shows than on the entire first leg of 360. So even when it comes to setlists I think we have little to complain. Of course, there are always things one could remark, but these are merely personal preferences which every fan has.

ahn1991

9 years

I was at two shows and if you ask me, the fans were AMAZED to be there. When Mysterious Ways kicked up for the millionth time, the arena went absolutely nuts. People went crazy over Elevation, even more so than Volcano, to be quite honest.

I'm going to call out all of the setlist complainers out there and say that U2 doesn't give a damn about what the setlist looks like to those outside of the venue they're playing at. They care about the people who paid money and waited in line to go fucking nuts when they decide to play "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For." If you want to send a message that the setlist is boring, don't complain about it online. Instead, go buy a ticket and show up to the concert looking bored throughout the entire thing and maybe they will take the hint.

Sorry, I don't usually cuss this much, but the amount of disrespect is pretty appalling, especially given that we're barely 11 shows into the first leg of this tour. A tour that by all means could have easily not happened if Bono's bike accident was serious (I'm talking broken collarbone serious).

bartajax

9 years

Originally posted by Remy:[..]
+1.

As well, 10 new songs is unprecedented in U2's history since the Popmart tour. They played more unique songs in the first 10 shows than on the entire first leg of 360. So even when it comes to setlists I think we have little to complain. Of course, there are always things one could remark, but these are merely personal preferences which every fan has.

You're right and so is Ahn. BUT the main reason people complain is the way they announced the tour, without the talk from the band (Bono) about mixing it up every night etc. people would have been more happy about the setlists.

And indeed personal preferences play a big part, I thinks its cool they rotate some more this tour. But playing songs like Sweetest Thing, Stuck and Elevation as rotating songs while they got so many better songs (like 90% of their catalogue) is just a little boring.

I've seen some people posting that this is a fan site, so? Should fans love everything a band, artists, sportclub does?

Remy

9 years

Originally posted by ahn1991:I was at two shows and if you ask me, the fans were AMAZED to be there. When Mysterious Ways kicked up for the millionth time, the arena went absolutely nuts. People went crazy over Elevation, even more so than Volcano, to be quite honest.

I'm going to call out all of the setlist complainers out there and say that U2 doesn't give a damn about what the setlist looks like to those outside of the venue they're playing at. They care about the people who paid money and waited in line to go fucking nuts when they decide to play "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For." If you want to send a message that the setlist is boring, don't complain about it online. Instead, go buy a ticket and show up to the concert looking bored throughout the entire thing and maybe they will take the hint.

Sorry, I don't usually cuss this much, but the amount of disrespect is pretty appalling, especially given that we're barely 11 shows into the first leg of this tour. A tour that by all means could have easily not happened if Bono's bike accident was serious (I'm talking broken collarbone serious).

I don't think anyone shows disrespect here, or at least don't mean to. There are no people here who dislike U2, fortunately

ahn1991

9 years

When I heard the explanation as to why they decided to scrap the nightly setlist swap, the explanation made sense to me. First of all, you do have the trap of fans thinking they went to the "wrong" show and because every fan has an opinion, you would always have fans who complained that they went to the wrong show (I should have gone to show 5 where they played Acrobat instead of show 4 where they played all this Pop trash). The secondary problem with this is that all those fans would be justly right in saying that they went to the "wrong" show. I think this would have caused a ton of frustration for those who don't usually buy multiple shows in the same city, which would be most of everyone not involved with this fansite.

However, the idea sounds really nice in theory. U2 made the mistake of voicing this idea and putting it into everyone's mind. They said it first, then they thought about it and realized it would have been worse to implement it.

I think the second problem is that people are thinking that U2 are gods. I mean, how can they not be? Bono's been injured and patched up how many times and he's still in good enough shape to tour. Plus, Edge takes a tumble off the stage the most serious thing to come out of it is a really bad joke from Bono. They've toured with their own radio station, they've made phone calls to presidents and Popes, they showed up in a huge Lemon and then a huge spaceship.., what can't they possibly do? Surely mixing up 20 out of 24 songs every night should be easy right? There are a lot of practical issues that this brings up, but I really do think the reason they scrapped the idea was the issue with the "wrong night" thing.

ahn1991

9 years

If U2 wanted to take anything from people complaining about the setlist variation, it should be that they should run their ideas with a couple think-tanks and focus-groups before going public with them.

ferrari

9 years

As I said before, it is wasting time and energy in still repeating complaints about the setlist.

Of course you may criticise U2. But to me it is carry on one's point.

At first I think U2 simply haven't had enough time to rehearse all the songs they wanted to play, all new songs of SOE, songs they like, the hits and fan favorites.

80%/90% of the public visiting a U2 show wants to hear the hits.

Imagine you are at a U2 concert and 80%/90% of the public does not sing, dance, just sitting on their seats, are quit, because they know not the songs that are played or even dislike them.

Believe me the other 10%, the setlist complainers, also does not have a great evening.

The response of the public is one of the main points of a U2 show.

For me personally I am quit satisfied at the moment, 9 songs of SOI, The Electric Co, Out of Control, Invisable, Miracle drug, Bad, Bullet, When love comes to town, some different arrangements.

NumberFiveAlive

9 years

its not just about the announcement... even without "different nights" the core of the setlist is very safe... joshua (every tour) + achtung (every tour) + boy (vertigo tour) + not enough songs from SOI including the weaker ones (like Iris and SFS), they said that they really believe in the new songs but they play 6 of them on a typical night... thats not confidence, plus the encore is VERY uninspiring - no theme (POP) or new songs, juts another bunch of hits to close the show, i dont want to be negative but i can understand why people complain...

its clear that bonos accident had some impact on the rehearsals but i dont think the setlist would be very different... more new songs? maybe, different general direction? no way

nicocoppens

9 years