2017-07-29 - Amsterdam
Tour: Joshua Tree Tour 2017
Songs played: 23
Audio recordings: 4
Videos: 1
  1. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Well plenty of people go to football matches in the same stadiums and most people are trying to get there for kick off time so it's the same deal really, if your suggesting there would be problems with everyone turning up when gates open then that would depend on whether people acted like adults or not. Also not everyone would turn up when gates open there would still be plenty arriving later than that. Why should people turning up later not try and get or the front? They're paying the same money for a ticket and have arrived at a suitable time to see the band, I don't agree with physically barging your way forward but if people are leaving gaps then they're there to be filled.
    Ground tickets are open. During footbal matches you have tickets for a specific seat.

    You don't understand that you are not the only one that is trying to get through the gaps... Therefore don't understand that places you try to gain are costing people in front their places.

    FYI. People in the past have died during concerts because of that behaviour.
    If you make closed parts you won't have these problems.
  2. Originally posted by andyuk36:[..]
    Agree I turned up at twickenham as Noel Gallagher was starting his set watched it from the back.At the interval most people go for a beer or toilet break and we just walked further forward we had a great spot good view not on the rail but close enough to see and enjoy the show. The problem with some countries I find they sell a lot more GA tickets or allow more in the GA. I noticed the difference on the IE tour in London lots of room but in Dublin it was horrible too packed and very uncomfortable


    In Amsterdam most people left during the interval because it was getting to crowded.
  3. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    Ground tickets are open. During footbal matches you have tickets for a specific seat.

    You don't understand that you are not the only one that is trying to get through the gaps... Therefore don't understand that places you try to gain are costing people in front their places.

    FYI. People in the past have died during concerts because of that behaviour.
    If you make closed parts you won't have these problems.
    Yes but there is a still a large crowd heading to the same place at the same time, if people behave in a civil manner then it isn't an issue even for ga. Ido understand I'm not the only one trying to get through the gaps but if it's there and I can see it in front of me I'm going to fill it. If your saying that people in front have left to them come back and reclaim there spot then I'm sorry we can't all keep people's places. In fact something I did see at Twivkenham was people sitting in ga before u2 started which was taking up a needless amount of space. Again if we are not being forceful and simply filling gaps there will be no deaths as you have pointed out. I think deaths have been caused by people being over forceful in there quest for a good spot, something which I would never do, I have never threw my weight about or barged past people and never would.
  4. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    Ground tickets are open. During footbal matches you have tickets for a specific seat.

    You don't understand that you are not the only one that is trying to get through the gaps... Therefore don't understand that places you try to gain are costing people in front their places.

    FYI. People in the past have died during concerts because of that behaviour.
    If you make closed parts you won't have these problems.
    I agree and it is a lot better H&S wise now in the 80's and 90's some concert were dreadfull no crowd control a free for all and people got hurt which isnt the objective of going to a gig its about making great memories and having a good time.
  5. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    Yes but there is a still a large crowd heading to the same place at the same time, if people behave in a civil manner then it isn't an issue even for ga. Ido understand I'm not the only one trying to get through the gaps but if it's there and I can see it in front of me I'm going to fill it. If your saying that people in front have left to them come back and reclaim there spot then I'm sorry we can't all keep people's places. In fact something I did see at Twivkenham was people sitting in ga before u2 started which was taking up a needless amount of space. Again if we are not being forceful and simply filling gaps there will be no deaths as you have pointed out. I think deaths have been caused by people being over forceful in there quest for a good spot, something which I would never do, I have never threw my weight about or barged past people and never would.
    With all due respect, please try to understand this. You are not the only one trying to get through the gaps. By doing so you are cramping people in front of the stage, who then have to get taken away from their places.
    As someone said earlier. If 2 people had to be taken away and brought to the hospital because of that kind of behaviour, is outrageous.
    I am not concerned about myself. I am 6.3 feet, I'll menage. But you are fucking a lot of smaller people including children because of that behaviour.

    I am sorry I have to say this, but I was really close to punch someone on his face yesterday because of his ridiculous behaviour.
    And I never had that kind of feeling before.
  6. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    With all due respect, please try to understand this. You are not the only one trying to get through the gaps. By doing so you are cramping people in front of the stage, who then have to get taken away from their places.
    As someone said earlier. If 2 people had to be taken away and brought to the hospital because of that kind of behaviour, is outrageous.
    I am not concerned about myself. I am 6.3 feet, I'll menage. But you are fucking a lot of smaller people including children because of that behaviour.

    I am sorry I have to say this, but I was really close to punch someone on his face yesterday because of his ridiculous behaviour.
    And I never had that kind of feeling before.
    We still disagree, if your near the front of ga and are leaving big gaps then expect someone to fill them. If I am not forcing other people to move which I wasn't and there was still room for me to stand which there was I'am doing no harm to anyone. The problem comes when people are literally pushing through forcing others to move which means people against rails are losing space, I didn't take up people's space I simply filled the space that was there. If someone was trying to push me out the way, which I wouldn't allow, I would feel equally as angry, if I left space in front of me and someone took it I couldn't complain.
  7. Originally posted by andyuk36:[..]
    I agree and it is a lot better H&S wise now in the 80's and 90's some concert were dreadfull no crowd control a free for all and people got hurt which isnt the objective of going to a gig its about making great memories and having a good time.
    Exactly, concerts should be about having fun and having a great time. Which I had yesterday. Tonight going to a seat on the tribune... Can't wait...
  8. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    We still disagree, if your near the front of ga and are leaving big gaps then expect someone to fill them. If I am not forcing other people to move which I wasn't and there was still room for me to stand which there was I'am doing no harm to anyone. The problem comes when people are literally pushing through forcing others to move which means people against rails are losing space, I didn't take up people's space I simply filled the space that was there. If someone was trying to push me out the way, which I wouldn't allow, I would feel equally as angry, if I left space in front of me and someone took it I couldn't complain.
    It's ok, you don't get it... That's why there should be closed parts.
  9. I do get it, I also get when someone's being patronising but never mind maybe that's something you don't get.
  10. I got to Twickenham about 6pm, worked my way round the side of the GA and found a good spot- didn't barge anyone out of the way, just found a nice gap, quite close to the front by the right side catwalk. Basically if you move in GA you lose your spot- tough luck

    Time and again I've had people barge through to get to the front- sometimes people doing endless beer runs, but those who turn up late and then insist on being at the front.

    The split pitch thing in Dublin was brilliant if you had Pitch 2 tickets- it was the only time I got near the b stage outside of the red zone
  11. The gaps are left for a reason... So people in front don't get cramped and get unwell. If you and 500 other people decide to fill those gaps because they feel they have the right to get in front of the stage without making an effort, is the readon why there should be closed parts. That is all I am saying...
    I am not trying to be patronising, just thinking of the people that make an effort to get good places in front of the stage.
  12. Yes don't go to the gaps.. It's so much more comfortable for everyone when there is some free space