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Experience and Innocence tour
 Legs (3): Promo tour, Leg 1: North America, Leg 2: Europe
Shows: 75
  1. Originally posted by _Bishop_:I am usually optimistic, I think EU / UK will get some changes from the NA setlist.

    I can see :

    Get Out Of Your Own Way / American Soul being replaced with Summer Of Love / Red Flag Day

    Swap out You’re The Best Thing About Me and Staring At The Sun with The Showman / Please

    They really need to rotate 2 songs in the main set if they are doing 2 shows in a city

    Say, I Will Follow and New Year’s Day night one, Electric Co and Gloria night 2

    And something is just missing in the encore. But I don’t know what you can add or take away.

    Also, I know in the US basically they try to have concerts done by 11PM, there might be more flexibility in EU / UK arenas.

    Anyway, I hope some things change up, but if not, at least most fans already know what to expect.

    I also don’t know how a crowd in the EU / UK would react to some of the political tones that are used for the shows in US, they even changed a bit around when they were in Canada.

    I still think the show is good, and that is what it is, a show. You are paying to see a show.
    Encore is missing streets but if they are going to be ridiculous and not play anything from the Joshua Tree then they need to add bad, all I wanr is you, or little things or better all of those
  2. I think there is some good stuff in the tour but the bad does definitely out weigh the good but I do really like the first 3 songs, ABOY, IWF, The intermission, ACROBAT, And love is bigger than anything in its way
  3. It also wouldn’t surprise me when they come to Europe to see them play GOOYOW using the outro like they did in the promo tour and going straight into the current intro there using for COBL. I think they would still keep the set at least 24 songs but add something in elsewhere, in fact the more I think it about I’m convinced they’ll do just that. It fits into the pattern of them reducing the number of songs the play from the current album as the tour goes on as well.
  5. The visuals will change. The songs will not. It's easy to replace the Charlotesville nazi rally visuals with visuals of anti-immigration movements in France, Italy, Hungary, Poland, UK, you name it.
    They'll still sing Staring At The Sun -> Pride -> GOOYOW -> AS -> COBL. A little change in the speech during Pride and they're good to go.
  6. Of course, the law of probabilities says something has to change. And eventually they will add and drop 1 or 2 songs.
    But I don't think this will happen during night 1 in Berlin. It will take 5 or 6 shows to see a difference, just like with the I+E tour.
    Half of the Zooropa leg was the same as ZooTV until they made changes in late July.
  7. Zooropa did come in from the beginning of the European leg of I&E though, I know that wasn’t a full song but it still made a significant difference to the show. October also became a regular although I know it was played at least once in New York. So maybe they will have something new in mind for opening night in Europe. It’s sort of unclear because I&E and E&I have been chalk and cheese when it comes to number of rotation slots and it makes this tours Setlist appear more fixed but it’s not like JT17 where they were committed to playing an entire album in sequence right in the middle of the set, there is more room for manoeuvre this time round.
  8. Originally posted by deanallison:Zooropa did come in from the beginning of the European leg of I&E though, I know that wasn’t a full song but it still made a significant difference to the show. October also became a regular although I know it was played at least once in New York. So maybe they will have something new in mind for opening night in Europe. It’s sort of unclear because I&E and E&I have been chalk and cheese when it comes to number of rotation slots and it makes this tours Setlist appear more fixed but it’s not like JT17 where they were committed to playing an entire album in sequence right in the middle of the set, there is more room for manoeuvre this time round.
    I checked and you're right, October and Zooropa were indeed played night 1 in Turin. My bad.
  9. Fun fact - there's virtually no such thing as an arena curfew in the US.

    Show end times are likely dictated by the overtime they have to pay crew to bring it down.
  10. Originally posted by MattG:Fun fact - there's virtually no such thing as an arena curfew in the US.

    Show end times are likely dictated by the overtime they have to pay crew to bring it down.
    And yet ironically a lot of the sets in Europe were longer than the North American ones for I&E. Our band do like to challenge logic at times don’t they lol. Although I don’t know about length of the shows in time I’m talking number of songs.
  11. Well right, if American unions work differently than European ones it could be drastically cheaper to keep playing later in Europe.

    Only speaking from the building I know, our union rules are that every hour after midnight pays overtime. If a show comes down at 10:30, the crew has an hour and a half to break it down before they start getting paid overtime.

    I'm not saying the band writes setlists to adhere to a specific city's union curfew, but if Live Nation books the tour and contracts U2 for 120 minute sets starting no later than 8:30 PM, it could very well be in the interest of saving money if union rules are similar all over the country.

    They may book/contract it totally different for Europe.
  12. I don’t know the ins and outs of it but I do think that with the curfews in Europe there is significantly high charges for going over them. I think the band play it safe though by starting early enough to give themselves room to go over there alotted time without exceeding the curfew. I don’t have a clue if it works any differently when it comes to paying the crew overtime though.
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