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Experience and Innocence tour
 Legs (3): Promo tour, Leg 1: North America, Leg 2: Europe
Shows: 75
  1. Originally posted by MattG:[..]
    Tastefully and respectfully disagree; my opinion is more in line with DeBFreund

    Iris (both the human and the song) are about preserving innocence, both in time and in character. This tour - the experience tour, or rather "the loss of innocence" - requires a different figure. For our narrator to be able to convey that massive change by simply changing the perspective from his mother to his father....I think that's an absolutely genius move.

    The maddening thing about all of this is that they couldn't have just taken a year off to think this all through and deliver THIS show throughout 2018. Baffles me.
    Agree to disagree, I think its a major stretch. Honestly you could make a lot songs fit anything you want if you try. Which is how your post sounds to me. .

    They need to drop I Will Follow under your "theme". I even put that caveat in my post that Lemon is out if they drop the I Will Follow, Mother theme. It is still the Experience AND Innocence tour. Part of the Innocence narrative should stay IMO. They can just do it with different songs. I don't think Dirty Day (while I like the song) fits. I will still think it is cool if they do it. But I think the whole "narrative" thing which is what struck me as cool about this tour (and what others hated) is starting to get muddied quite a bit.
  2. I find it disappointing that the tour is reaching such great heights with less than 10 shows left.
  3. Dirty Day would absolutely fit IMHO as it's a father and son song, and the screen and lighting could definitely do it justice. Lemon in any capacity would be great after Acrobat as a Macphisto song. Yeah, interesting that they're switching it up now, but their confidence and comfort level is high, and inspiration comes as it comes..look at the Zooropa album. F the theme, keep switching it up, boys!!
  4. While I agree that most of these song changes are cool, I don’t think all of the changes have been totally positive from the first leg.

    Love Is All We Have Left > Nothing/Great Dictator Intro (I saw Coldplay already )
    Zoo Station > Cedarwood Road (although I would argue that this should still be played)
    The Fly > Sunday Blood Sunday (this version should have been dropped back on Innocence)
    Stay (Only because it is full band) > Iris
    Horses = Until The End Of the World (both versions from this tour were great, both should have been played together.)
    Desire = Even Better Than The Real Thing (EBTTRT, heard this version for the 3rd tour now.)
    Staring At The Sun > Summer Of Love (usually I’m all for new material. But SOL is meh live and SATS was great on the first leg)
    American Soul > New Year’s Day (Sorry, I know people here hate AS, it kicked ass live. NYD is meh to me. Warhorse that I have never thought was fantastic and just heard a version of it for the entire prior tour) Initially I was ok with this because Red Flag Day Became a staple. But not any longer. Took out a new song, dropped a new song and replaced it with a warhorse.

    It seems to me the changes are for the Blu Ray and trying not to have any songs the same from the Paris 2015 Blu Ray. That is fine, but I do not think all the changes were just glorious which is what seems to be conveyed at the moment by a lot of fans. I know many of you will disagree with my assessment also, especially on American Soul. But there is no other new song that got the crowd into the show like American Soul did.
  5. Yeah, American Soul is a rocker live...Sad to see Iris leave, but I didn't like the "abbreviated" version they had started playing. I don't think they could play Horses and End of the World together, as they both have the rocking, climactic endings. With Cedarwood Road out, End of the World to me would seem out of place. I wish they would have kept Desire or even thrown in a new one instead of Real Thing, that one's seeming stale.

    Edit: I'm ecstatic with the changes, and it will be interesting to see how they cut/edit/place the songs for any intended release if they're really intending to not include any songs from Paris 2015, but still keep the theme. I think they should have a version of each song they played during the whole tour, kind of like an "Edge's Picks" thing, but bigger


  6. This!The fact that people are still on here moaning about setlists astonishes me.The band could have a poll on their website allowing fans to create a setlist and people still wouldn't be happy!The problem is that if someone has a fantasy setlist in their head,they'll somehow never be satisfied as any reality has to be compromised for them.
  7. Originally posted by bonoschild:Yeah, American Soul is a rocker live...Sad to see Iris leave, but I didn't like the "abbreviated" version they had started playing. I don't think they could play Horses and End of the World together, as they both have the rocking, climactic endings. With Cedarwood Road out, End of the World to me would seem out of place. I wish they would have kept Desire or even thrown in a new one instead of Real Thing, that one's seeming stale.
    I rather wish they'd just play the straight up album version of Real Thing.
  9. Originally posted by Blue_Room:[..]
    Agree to disagree, I think its a major stretch. Honestly you could make a lot songs fit anything you want if you try. Which is how your post sounds to me. .

    They need to drop I Will Follow under your "theme". I even put that caveat in my post that Lemon is out if they drop the I Will Follow, Mother theme. It is still the Experience AND Innocence tour. Part of the Innocence narrative should stay IMO. They can just do it with different songs. I don't think Dirty Day (while I like the song) fits. I will still think it is cool if they do it. But I think the whole "narrative" thing which is what struck me as cool about this tour (and what others hated) is starting to get muddied quite a bit.


    I COMPLETELY agree about them needing to drop I Will Follow. Hopefully we can expound on that point for an interesting conversation...

    What songs from Boy & October - two innocence-riddled albums - could feasibly work in this setlist as "Experience" songs?
  10. Originally posted by MattG:[..]


    I COMPLETELY agree about them needing to drop I Will Follow. Hopefully we can expound on that point for an interesting conversation...

    What songs from Boy & October - two innocence-riddled albums - could feasibly work in this setlist as "Experience" songs?
    shadows and tall trees
  11. Originally posted by James360:I know this going against the grain here but I do not understand all this Dirty Day love. For me it is a below average song that will alienate 98% of the crowd when they play it.
    Aside from the excitement of the hardcore here who seem to love it, I predict it is going to go down like a wet balloon.

    U2 have probably 150 other songs I'd personally prefer them to play and the general fan in attendance won't even know what it is. Strange choice.


    100% this.
  12. Agree. It is ok to hear Dirty Day, but not special and has nothing to do with the theme. I prefer Cedarwood road or Iris.
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