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Experience and Innocence tour
 Legs (3): Promo tour, Leg 1: North America, Leg 2: Europe
Shows: 75
  1. They use Rock it Cargo. If you notice tour dates open and close usually near shipping ports. Vancouver, New York and California. The stage is the same from North America.
  2. Originally posted by miryclay:They use Rock it Cargo. If you notice tour dates open and close usually near shipping ports. Vancouver, New York and California. The stage is the same from North America.
    Is it shipped or flown??
  3. Shipped. In U2 by U2 they mentioned that they famously flew the Popmart stage in an Army plane to OZ.
  4. Originally posted by Blue_Room:[..]
    They were not rushed and I have not heard anything even resembling that from anyone within the crew or organization. That type of info would typically leak out or be implied by someone that would be in the know. Not the case and never even implied by anyone other than "fans" that I'm aware of anyway.

    Just because you did not like the setlist or what they did, does not make it rushed. I understand if you did not care for it, but to say it was rushed because of that is not correct.

    U2's mindset? Again, understand you did not like it, but to say they should change their art because you did not like the original is ridiculous. Willie's comment was just what we were talking about. Each tour evolves based on the flow and what U2 are feeling. That is what has happened as it normally does.

    Hell, I like the new changes but I do not think the entire setlist is better than the N. American leg. Saying you wanted your money back is odd coming from a U2 fan. You got to see one of the greatest if not the greatest rock bands in the world, possibly on one of their last tours and you are bitching about it wanting money back. Really???? Ask the Australian's how they feel about that.

    I didn't say they were rushed, I said the show "felt" rushed, and IMO that matters more with the subject at hand. For all I know it was totally planned. It felt rushed because so much of the show was the same, and it shouldn't have "FELT" that way. And like I said, I'm not the only one who saw the show I did with that opinion. The other hardcore U2 fan I went with felt the same way (who also went to the 2015 show), and a few others I know who saw both were disappointed. This isn't be being a setlist whiner, far from it.

    I honestly feel like you either didn't read my post, or are twisting my words for some reason that's beyond me. I didn't say I wanted my money back, in fact I offered that perhaps I could've made a more informed decision had I spoiled the setlist for myself. What I said was I wouldn't have bought a ticket if I knew how much of the show would be the same. I also didn't say I "didn't like the original" - I loved the 2015 tour. I just didn't need to see it again under the pretense that I would be seeing a different show.

    Learn how to read, bud.

    Originally posted by popmarter:[..]
    They shouldn't have played the US at all on this tour they've overplayed that market over the last few years Eastern Europe and Aus,NZ should have been toured instead.Everyone knew what they were buying a ticket for the tour was part 2 of I&E they didn't pretend otherwise the people moaning about the U.S. setlist sound like a bunch of jealous kids at Christmas who weren't satisfied with their lot when they saw what their mates got.


    I agree, the market has been overplayed. But this is a shitty attitude and a shitty way to talk to a fellow U2 fan. And again, you must have not read what I said either. I'm not jealous whatsoever, I'm completely happy that the Europeans are getting an awesome show with a great setlist. I was just saying that this should have been the show that this tour started with, and really, the show as it is in Europe now should have been this show AND THEN some. Like we should've got this ZooTV revival, and you guys get the same ZooTV revival, PLUS Popmart (or whatever), being that the tour has been going on this long etc.

    That's all I was trying to say.

    Nice place this forum has turned out to be.
  5. My name is not Bud.

    The tone of your post was you felt you wasted your time and money seeing U2 which I cannot relate to, period. My post is a response to that and I'm not the only one that took it that way if you read back. There is no concrete evidence other than fan speculation that they were "rushed" either. You also indicated you wanted to jump into the debate but then post this response? Sorry, you are SUPERFAN! My apologies.
  6. Woah guys calm it down
  7. I'm fine and not upset. I responded to his post, he didn't like it and came back with this. Welcome to the internet! But my name is not Bud, simply correcting that. I guess I CAN read! YES!
  8. In the words of bono with a slight tweak ‘this thread has just got out of control’. I think the biggest problem here is that the discussion is online, the same discussion probably could have been had in person and went down without an issue it’s sometimes hard to know what manner someone is speaking in online, no point carrying it on any further now.
  9. Originally posted by deanallison:In the words of bono with a slight tweak ‘this thread has just got out of control’. I think the biggest problem here is that the discussion is online, the same discussion probably could have been had in person and went down without an issue it’s sometimes hard to know what manner someone is speaking in online, no point carrying it on any further now.
    This is very true lol
  10. Originally posted by Blue_Room:My name is not Bud.

    The tone of your post was you felt you wasted your time and money seeing U2 which I cannot relate to, period. My post is a response to that and I'm not the only one that took it that way if you read back. There is no concrete evidence other than fan speculation that they were "rushed" either. You also indicated you wanted to jump into the debate but then post this response? Sorry, you are SUPERFAN! My apologies.

    Apologies, we Canadians tend to say "bud" as in short for "buddy".

    Also, is this bolded part for real? Or do I really need to ask if you read my post at all again?

    Here's what I said:

    I didn't say they were rushed, I said the show "felt" rushed, and IMO that matters more with the subject at hand. For all I know it was totally planned. It felt rushed because so much of the show was the same, and it shouldn't have "FELT" that way. And like I said, I'm not the only one who saw the show I did with that opinion. The other hardcore U2 fan I went with felt the same way (who also went to the 2015 show), and a few others I know who saw both were disappointed. This isn't be being a setlist whiner, far from it.

    I won't go back to my original post where I literally said the same thing.

    And yeah, I did feel at the time like I had wasted my time and money, to be honest. Not all U2 fans are the same, but I had to book work off, spend a lot of money, for a show I had felt I had already seen four times. The difference is, those four times (in 2015) I knew I was paying to see the same show. Two years later, under the pretense of a new/different show, I didn't expect to see it a fifth time (which is what it felt like to me). So yes, I felt a bit conned.
  11. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    Apologies, we Canadians tend to say "bud" as in short for "buddy".

    Also, is this bolded part for real? Or do I really need to ask if you read my post at all again?

    Here's what I said:

    [..]

    I won't go back to my original post where I literally said the same thing.

    And yeah, I did feel at the time like I had wasted my time and money, to be honest. Not all U2 fans are the same, but I had to book work off, spend a lot of money, for a show I had felt I had already seen four times. The difference is, those four times (in 2015) I knew I was paying to see the same show. Two years later, under the pretense of a new/different show, I didn't expect to see it a fifth time (which is what it felt like to me). So yes, I felt a bit conned.
    I guess the moral to your story is you should not avoid spoilers going forward versus avoiding them. You could have saved time and money. The only thing I read prior to this tour was that the staging would be the same with some tweaks. (IE higher resolution screen and the catwalk that comes down out of it now.) I never read that they were planning radically different setlists. I wouldn't have believed the setlist part even if they had said that!

    No big deal. U2 is worth it if I have the money and time always. The time is the hard part for me at this stage. I have been slightly disappointed one or two times seeing U2. But I always remind myself what I said previously about this band. I think an average show by U2 is better than 90% of what is out there to me. We can agree to disagree on that I guess.
  12. Originally posted by Blue_Room:[..]
    I guess the moral to your story is you should not avoid spoilers going forward versus avoiding them. You could have saved time and money. The only thing I read prior to this tour was that the staging would be the same with some tweaks. (IE higher resolution screen and the catwalk that comes down out of it now.) I never read that they were planning radically different setlists. I wouldn't have believed the setlist part even if they had said that!

    No big deal. U2 is worth it if I have the money and time always. The time is the hard part for me at this stage. I have been slightly disappointed one or two times seeing U2. But I always remind myself what I said previously about this band. I think an average show by U2 is better than 90% of what is out there to me. We can agree to disagree on that I guess.
    I suppose so. It hasn't been a problem on previous tours I've attended because I went in thinking "new tour, new show" and I was always right. This time I went in thinking "same show, but new tour...so the show can't be entirely the same" - and of course it wasn't entirely the same, but it was samey enough that I was disappointed. Now, obviously that doesn't go for everyone, but it certainly did for me.

    I wouldn't even say I was expecting a radically different setlist, but the whole middle portion being the same totally irked me. I loved that section in the 2015 shows (talking Cedarwood, Iris, SFS, SBS, UTEOTW, etc.) - but I expected the same level of production to be thrown into a completely different set of songs based on "Experience". Instead it was that same mini-production, with Experience songs scattered throughout the rest of the setlist. It just felt like the same "show" to me, even if a number of songs were different. I can't really explain it further than that.

    I can't relate to people who said they were disappointed by the JT Anniversary Tour, but I can totally respect why they would feel that way. Different strokes for different folks.

    And despite the fact that U2 is far and beyond my favourite musical artist (no question, no discussion, period end of story!), I can't agree, so you're right - agree to disagree. I've seen a ton of concerts that blew me away (none so much as U2 of course), but maybe that's why when U2 disappointed me a little bit, it disappointed me the most. When _______(insert other artist I like) disappointed me, I'm not as bummed because they're not my lifeblood. When U2 disappointed me, I guess it just hit me hard.

    I want to make it clear though, I'm DEFINITELY not like, setlist-whining towards the European fans, at all. I'm so damn happy that they're getting to see the show I would've expected out of this tour, and I sincerely hope we get a DVD of it in all its glory. I also feel for the fans who haven't seen U2 in years now (Aussies, etc.), and if I could go back and give up my Experience show so they could see it, I would 100 times over. It's complete crap that they haven't been to those places in a while, and the fact that I found the Experience show disappointing because it was too similar to the Innocence show - well, that would just piss me off to hear that if I was Australian, and I'm sorry for that. I've been spoiled and I know it.

    Anyway man, hope there's no bad blood here - I might've gotten a little heated and I apologize for that. We all love this band and if nothing else, should always be chill with each other for that reason alone. One, but not the same
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