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  1. I have to drink less beer, cause I still do not understand why. Noone makes profit with this. Tapers upload thier recordings and some assholes sell it. That's no problem? Mp3's are demonized. What a crazy, crazy world.
  2. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]

    The arguments for mp3 as the arguments against. If a guy makes the effort to tape a show he reserves the right to say what should happen to his recording (at least that's his thinking). There is demand for mp3 and one way or another somebody is going to provide for that demand. If not the taper himself, then via places like here or via 'personal use'.


    Once it's out there though, the tapers must realise that somehere, someone will turn a blind eye to a bit of text and do what they want with the files. They do it at their own risk. Yes some people will respect their wishes and if the taper wants to keep their recording 'intact', then maybe they should only share with people they know respect the rules.

    If time and time again, U2Start convert a lossless recording to MP3 to satisfy the needs of a fair chunk of the members of it's site, then as a taper, why run the risk that all the effort taken to record a concert will be for nothing?

    Don't trust the community you share with, don't share at all. Hardly as if anyone is infringing on a legal issue by converting a bootleg into MP3 and sharing it.
  3. Originally posted by JulienLossless:[..]

    you got it right, no more achtung_baby01 recordings shared in public from now on, only in closed friends circles, iem's or audiences. no coimbra coming from him, and i'm pretty sure bedoc won't share his coimbra recordings either, you won it all in the end thanks to the idiotic management deciding to not respect the wishes of people providing the goods.


    Wanna be friends?
  4. Originally posted by JulienLossless:[..]

    you got it right, no more achtung_baby01 recordings shared in public from now on, only in closed friends circles, iem's or audiences. no coimbra coming from him, and i'm pretty sure bedoc won't share his coimbra recordings either, you won it all in the end thanks to the idiotic management deciding to not respect the wishes of people providing the goods.


    for once, I totally share you opinion

  5. I'm sure the mentality of some would be "1,165 fish left in the sea". I'm no completist who wants every single word that has come out of Bono's mouth in the duration of his career to be on my hard drive in the best quality it can be, so to be honest, I'm not bothered if Coimbra doesn't show up on the site. I'm sure there are others here who would be bothered though.


  7. lol. Hannover + Vienna completely, and Munich partly. 95% of Horsens I, too, but most of it is shitty thanks to tight security checking the seats. Everything filmed from seats. Have a look at the "varios songs" edits I uploaded on my youtube channel.
  8. Originally posted by germcevoy:[..]

    The arguments for mp3 as the arguments against. If a guy makes the effort to tape a show he reserves the right to say what should happen to his recording (at least that's his thinking). There is demand for mp3 and one way or another somebody is going to provide for that demand. If not the taper himself, then via places like here or via 'personal use'.


    Yeah, I understand, the taper has every right to do that. I just don't know why they do it. They expect no one to convert it to MP3. It's a huge world and alot are U2 fans. It's gonna happen, isn't it?

    Originally posted by iTim:[..]

    Once it's out there though, the tapers must realise that somehere, someone will turn a blind eye to a bit of text and do what they want with the files. They do it at their own risk. Yes some people will respect their wishes and if the taper wants to keep their recording 'intact', then maybe they should only share with people they know respect the rules.

    If time and time again, U2Start convert a lossless recording to MP3 to satisfy the needs of a fair chunk of the members of it's site, then as a taper, why run the risk that all the effort taken to record a concert will be for nothing?

    Don't trust the community you share with, don't share at all. Hardly as if anyone is infringing on a legal issue by converting a bootleg into MP3 and sharing it.


    I agree with most of that.
  9. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]

    Yeah, I understand, the taper has every right to do that. I just don't know why they do it. They expect no one to convert it to MP3. It's a huge world and alot are U2 fans. It's gonna happen, isn't it?

    [..]




    where's the problem to only upload a lossless version if the taper asks to not convert to MP3? There are lossless uploads here already. What ppl do after they download is their personal use. If they start to spread it as Mp3 in a different way it is at least not u2start's problem anymore. Right now u2start is the only "source" that spreads MP3s in such a big form.
  10. Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]

    Yeah, I understand, the taper has every right to do that. I just don't know why they do it. They expect no one to convert it to MP3. It's a huge world and alot are U2 fans. It's gonna happen, isn't it?



    They don't mind if everybody who downloads the lossless files converts them to mp3. The problem seems to arise when there is a simple distribution channel for people to get the mp3's directly (U2start).

    When that happens people for some reason decide to re-encode, burn to cd, re-encode to flac and upload the files as lossless again. Apparently that would never happen if U2start didn't exist.

  11. Since every source is shared earlier anyway you can compare the MD5 hashes. So that rencoding and uploading would be useless. Plus the same will happen when people encode stuff them selves.

    Plus we serve a whole different audience, the chance of someone uploading something as lossless if its not is pretty small.
  12. Originally posted by loftarasa:[..]

    where's the problem to only upload a lossless version if the taper asks to not convert to MP3? There are lossless uploads here already. What ppl do after they download is their personal use. If they start to spread it as Mp3 in a different way it is at least not u2start's problem anymore. Right now u2start is the only "source" that spreads MP3s in such a big form.


    But if a member wanted the lossless version, they know where to go and get it. If a member is happy to listen to a bootleg in MP3 format (then it's more than likely that they'd have converted lossless anyway) then so be it.

    If at present, the achtung_baby recording is the only one out there, does it not satisfy him enough that whenever someone downloads a bootleg of the show, they can only be downloading his recording be it lossless or MP3? U2Start quite clearly states who taped the show. All credit is given to the original taper, no-one is trying to pass it off as their own or sell it and that would piss me off more than someone converting it to MP3.
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