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  1. Originally posted by yeah1. If god is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent, how is it possible that evil and suffering exists?

    For my money's worth, I'm no believer, but having spent the last couple of years studying philosophy and ethics at college I feel that I'd be wasting my time if I didn't get in here I'm fairly sure that the 'problem of free will' is going to be up there as far as answers go
  2. Here come the Calvinists....
  3. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    To be honest mate, I personally don't really worry about death - I'm very much of the "cross the bridge when you come to it" group of thought. I don't pretend to have any idea what happens when we die, but the fact is I'm not up for giving it much thought because for the moment, "I think therefore I am" - I'm here 'cause I'm here, as it were


    I just cannot imagine that there will be...nothing...that I will just turn into dirt. I know what happens to the body- but what happens to soul? That is the thing that allows you have feelings. I can't imagine I won't feel a thing. That's terrible. I don't think much about death as well, but sometimes yes, and I can find hope in religion....that's why I believe in God and the afterlife- it gives hope that our soul will just get out of the body and we will still exist.
  4. Originally posted by haytrainHere come the Calvinists....

    Heh - if it's me you're aiming that at, Jeremy m'man, I'm no Calvinist lol
    Originally posted by yuri31[..]
    I just cannot imagine that there will be...nothing...that I will just turn into dirt. I know what happens to the body- but what happens to soul? That is the thing that allows you have feelings. I can't imagine I won't feel a thing. That's terrible. I don't think much about death as well, but sometimes yes, and I can find hope in religion....that's why I believe in God and the afterlife- it gives hope that our soul will just get out of the body and we will still exist.

    Well, what about animals, plants etc.? They turn to dirt, and in essence we're all living breathing organisms. I don't mean to sound like a Materialist, because I don't agree with a lot of what people such as Richard Dawkins believe, because to me there is 'something' that sets us apart from other species in the animal kingdom, but the thing is I try to remember the fact that when everything's boiled down to the finer details, we're still animals. Whether that something is soul, conscience, both, neither etc. is no concern to me - it's part of me, so I'm going to put it to good use.

    I don't personally think there's anything to fear with by going out of existence, but I think the difference is that perhaps I'm not concerned with whether my life has any meaning in the grand scheme of things, whereas I guess it sounds like you are, or at least are uncomfortable with the notion of life not having meaning, but that's not meant to sound like I think it's a bad thing. Human instinct is to look for meaning in everything, and thus such an approach is entirely understandable.

    Hell, at the end of the day, the only way we're gonna know if there's anything post-mortem is to wait until we die, and I'm not gonna hang around waiting for that day 'cause I dunno when it's going to happen! I just want to make the most of life because I've got this opportunity, and I'm going to endeavour to go about it in such a way that won't hurt other people, and I can only hope that others are gonna return that favour

    Damn I went on a bit lol...
  5. Originally posted by yeahOkay, I'll rephrase my questions, to be clearer:

    1. If god is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent, how is it possible that evil and suffering exists?

    2. How does biological Evolution get along with the Sacred Scriptures of the Abrahamic religions?



    I can only answer your first question:
    Its quite simple. He gave us a FREE WILL and the FREEDOM OF CHOICE..
    God doesn't punish...ever...we do..for all kind of different reason.
    We make choice all the time...everyday in our personal lives.. but also who we choose as our leaders...they also make choices..do we go to war or not for instence..
    DON"T blame god for this...we do it ourself...
    Heaven and hell are not that far away...it is right here on earth...

    You always have a choice to make ...

  6. Once again, I'm asking for an answer for my question: : ))

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    Originally posted by thebonodrums[..]

    the first part i disagree with, because Jesus said the only way to the father is through Me....



    Wait a second...so you're saying there's no hope for Muslims, Hindu, Buddhists and all the others?!
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    When it comes to death...I'm pretty close to believe in reincarnation...which is pretty close to what Christians believe...
  7. Originally posted by astrid[..]


    I can only answer your first question:
    Its quite simple. He gave us a FREE WILL and the FREEDOM OF CHOICE..
    God doesn't punish...ever...we do..for all kind of different reason.
    We make choice all the time...everyday in our personal lives.. but also who we choose as our leaders...they also make choices..do we go to war or not for instence..
    DON"T blame god for this...we do it ourself...
    Heaven and hell are not that far away...it is right here on earth...

    You always have a choice to make ...




    So, diseases, tsunamis, earthquakes and stuff exist because someone made the wrong choice?
  8. Originally posted by yeah[..]

    So, diseases, tsunamis, earthquakes and stuff exist because someone made the wrong choice?


    those are natural disasters, ones that happen everywhere in the universe, in parts unknown, etc.

    check out Mars if you dont believe me

  9. Originally posted by yeah[..]

    So, diseases, tsunamis, earthquakes and stuff exist because someone made the wrong choice?

    Natural evil vs. moral evil.

    If you wanted to be ridiculously perdantic, you could argue that such things can happen as a long term result of someone making the wrong choice, e.g. if global warming has been accentuated by man-made actions, or indeed if global warming genuinely is what we perceive it to be, or any other man-made action that has resulted in environmental changes that result in natural disaster. I could go on, but don't want to, because this all conjecture (to a certain extent) - I just try to play Devil's Advocate and try to pose ideas for conversation
  10. Originally posted by stj0691[..]

    those are natural disasters, ones that happen everywhere in the universe, in parts unknown, etc.

    check out Mars if you dont believe me




    Yep, but god created the nature, the universe, didn't he? So natural disasters are part of his creation...
  11. Originally posted by yeah[..]

    Yep, but god created the nature, the universe, didn't he? So natural disasters are part of his creation...

    Now there's a challenge
  12. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    Now there's a challenge


    indeed so..... but what about the Big Bang?
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